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han308
08-07-2011, 03:26 PM
Hello,

I'm looking and centralising my files on a NAS drive connected to my router.

Does anyone have either of these drives and have any recommendations please.
Seagate BlackArmor NAS110
or
WD MyBook World edition.

Similar specs and price for 1TB.

Cheers,
Vic.

wainuitech
08-07-2011, 03:33 PM
Can you clear up exactly what you want ??

In the title is says DRIVER, yet in the post it appears to be asking for advice ???


RE the WD MyBook World edition.

If its advice - just check what Hard drive is in them - If they have the WD Black Editions, be warned - they have a high failure rate.

The blues and green are fine.

han308
08-07-2011, 03:45 PM
Err, that should be "drive". not driver...
The WD uses the green drive, it states only use these drives even in replacement.
I want to keep all my photos, music and video on one 'drive' and be able to access them from every PC / Mac in the house...

Chilling_Silence
08-07-2011, 04:05 PM
I'm a big WD fan. I've got 3 of the Western Digital MyBooks ( http://www.pclaunches.com/entry_images/0907/20/wd-mybook-essential-2.jpg ) but have always used something else to share the data from them.

If the WDTV is anything to go by how easy to use they are, then I'd say the MyBook World Edition should be awesome.

Great & reliable too, well ventilated setups.

Wasn't a fan of the Seagate BlackArmour drives when I've used them in the past. All minor gripes, but yeah ...

nedkelly
08-07-2011, 04:12 PM
Im making my own nas device which will eventually have 4x WD Green 2tb drives in raid 5

pablo d
08-07-2011, 04:23 PM
Hello,

I'm looking and centralising my files on a NAS drive connected to my router.

Does anyone have either of these drives and have any recommendations please.
Seagate BlackArmor NAS110
or
WD MyBook World edition.

Similar specs and price for 1TB.

Cheers,
Vic.

I've used both and found the Seagate to perform better but the WD software to be easier to use. With a gun to my head I'd prob go Seagate. They're both good though. :2cents:

wainuitech
08-07-2011, 04:24 PM
Building your own NAS could be an idea, esp if you have a spare machine ( or bits) laying about.

Been playing about with Amahi Home Server (http://www.amahi.org/) - works really nice - idiot proof ( almost) to setup :D and according to the site it compatible with:

Cross-platform compatibility

It's easy to use and offers cross-platform compatibility across many clients
•PC
•Mac
•Linux
•Meego
•iPhone
•iPad
•Android
•Google TV
•Playstation
•Xbox
•HDTVs
•Roku, TiVo .. and more!

Its free, installed from the new Express CD (http://blog.amahi.org/2011/06/06/all-aboard-amahi-express-cd-just-arrived/)
- you need to create a free account to get a install code, but thats all.

It has the ability to allow permissions as well for each user to the network shares, remote access.

stormdragon
08-07-2011, 05:27 PM
I've used a BlackArmor NAS110 can't complain, its not that hard to setup. Performance is alright to.

inphinity
08-07-2011, 06:27 PM
I've used both and found the Seagate to perform better but the WD software to be easier to use. With a gun to my head I'd prob go Seagate. They're both good though. :2cents:

This has been my experience as well. The WDs have tended to be simpler, but the Seagates, for me, have performed better. All the WD NAS encolsures I've used have had Green drives, which may be the cause for the performance discrepancy from Seagate. If you just want bulk storage, I'd go WD - they seem to be slightly cheaper, and are easier to work with imo, but if performance is of high importance, the Seagate will be your best bet.

han308
08-07-2011, 07:03 PM
Anyone tried connecting a printer to the usb port in the BlackArmor NAS110? Be nice if i could share that too

wainuitech
08-07-2011, 07:40 PM
Thats what the rear USB port is for - printer sharing over the LAN (page 10 of the manual)

inphinity
08-07-2011, 08:22 PM
Yeah, but bear in mind that some specialist printers won't work with it, but most standard inkjet/laers/MFCs should.

Chilling_Silence
10-07-2011, 08:18 AM
Building your own NAS could be an idea, esp if you have a spare machine ( or bits) laying about.

Been playing about with Amahi Home Server (http://www.amahi.org/) - works really nice - idiot proof ( almost) to setup :D and according to the site it compatible with:

I've downloaded the express Amahi CD earlier in the week too! Planned on giving it a whirl this weekend but I got sidetracked, so think I'll do it Monday night instead :D

wainuitech
10-07-2011, 10:45 AM
One thing I found ( and it could just be the drives) When I tried to install it on IDE drives it wouldn't boot afterward - when I installed on a SATA drive no problems.

When I installed it, there is No GUI interface once its installed, you have to make all changes from a LAN connection Via web browser (like any other NAS device) :)

Edited: I was gonna post some screen shots BUT -- Dont do what I have just done (Face Palm):lol: I've completely forgotten the bloody user name I used to log in - Password I remember -- Durhhhhhhhh

Chilling_Silence
11-07-2011, 08:13 AM
ohnoes :(

1101
11-07-2011, 09:31 AM
The cheap NAS devices used to be REALLY REALLY slow over networks on read/write

Have the new cheap NAS's got descent speed now ??

Chilling_Silence
11-07-2011, 12:03 PM
Pretty much every single desktop / laptop HDD out there these days has sustained sequential read / write speeds of over 100mbps. Most low-end consumer NAS drives are just a 3.5" Desktop HDD in a caddy.

If your network is only 10/100 or Wifi, then the HDD won't be the bottleneck.

If you're after something faster, then you'll potentially want to look into something that also does RAID, and I'd suggest it's worth DIY rather than buying something like the BlackAmor range.

wainuitech
11-07-2011, 12:42 PM
Hey Chill ---- After the slight BoBo With Amahi-- the damn login name was Admin :blush: :blush: Brain fade I guess.

All going again, just a couple of themes attached ( lots apps to select etc) -- one in particular - just a little to bright :eek: :waughh:

total Cost $0.00 Old PC laying about, free software -- cant get much better than that.

SolMiester
11-07-2011, 01:23 PM
Im making my own nas device which will eventually have 4x WD Green 2tb drives in raid 5

Using the WD green in a raid array is a no no!

Chilling_Silence
11-07-2011, 02:00 PM
Using the WD green in a raid array is a no no!

Correct:
http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1397

1101
11-07-2011, 04:46 PM
Pretty much every single desktop / laptop HDD out there these days has sustained sequential read / write speeds of over 100mbps. Most low-end consumer NAS drives are just a 3.5" Desktop HDD in a caddy.

If your network is only 10/100 or Wifi, then the HDD won't be the bottleneck.


The speed of the NAS is determined by the speed of the ~chipset~ it uses.
if the NAT has a slow chip(speed) then the actual transfer speeds will be bad.
Ive seen NAS's with transfer speeds almost 1/10 the HD's actual transfer speed- I threw my older el cheapo in the bin it was so slow.
That was a few years back,on cheaper NAT's. There was a reason a good NAT was really really expensive (again, 2years back)

do these newer generation cheap NAS's have transfer speeds that match the speed of the HD ??

pablo d
11-07-2011, 04:56 PM
do these newer generation cheap NAS's have transfer speeds that match the speed of the HD ??


hell no, 20~30MB/s is still the norm

yet people still insist on RAIDing the drives for extra performance :banana

1101
11-07-2011, 05:15 PM
hell no, 20~30MB/s is still the norm

yet people still insist on RAIDing the drives for extra performance :banana

AH yes. Ive had the job of trying to recover data off a RAID 0 external storage when 1 drive failed...oh dear....that was the only copy of all your data??

The thing was factory setup RAID0 to increase the capacity. :badpc:

inphinity
11-07-2011, 06:59 PM
Lower-end NAS devices are still slow, because as suggested above they use low-spec controllers to keep costs down. We had a BlackArmor 110 until recently and I would say it probably averaged about 20MB/Sec write and 40MB/sec read on 1Gbps LAN, which isn't bad really.

If you really want performance, the QNAP TurboNAS TS series are awesome (about 100MB/sec read/write) but they are EXPENSIVE.

1101
12-07-2011, 09:46 AM
....BlackArmor 110 until recently and I would say it probably averaged about 20MB/Sec write and 40MB/sec read

Thats a usable speed, so they are getting better. :thanks
Thats a BIG improvement on the ones I tried a few years back, mine had 5M/s MAX