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chumscrubber
15-06-2011, 02:41 PM
I have heard from many computer related people that they donīt use antivirus softwares and they can delete a virus without their help. it seems little stupid to me: once your data is stolen by a trojan there is little use deleting it.
It was just a little preview.
So I use BitDefender antivirus with all its features, malwarebytes antimalware, spybot search & destroy and comodo firewall. I donīt use them all at once ofcourse. I also have some other softwares for critical situations.

so what do you use for surfing the net securely?

Speedy Gonzales
15-06-2011, 03:02 PM
I just use Microsoft's AV program, and Windows firewall. Thats it

1101
15-06-2011, 03:04 PM
I have heard from many computer related people that they donīt use antivirus softwares and they can delete a virus without their help. it seems little stupid to me: once your data is stolen by a trojan there is little use deleting it.
It was just a little preview.
So I use BitDefender antivirus with all its features, malwarebytes antimalware, spybot search & destroy and comodo firewall. I donīt use them all at once ofcourse. I also have some other softwares for critical situations.

so what do you use for surfing the net securely?

"I have heard from many computer related people that they donīt use antivirus softwares"
I dought it it. Can be done but not recommended

"and they can delete a virus without their help"
This is utter BS. They wouldnt even know they were infected. scanning/Cleaning without AV is completely impractical

"so what do you use for surfing the net securely"
use simple common sense. Its the only tool that will work. Thats why many of the regulars here dont have issues with virus infections.
Dont use IE or Outlook if your are that paranoid.

Bottom line is: virus's/malware can get through any & all AV/spyware
/malware programs
common sense use of the PC is your best defence: stay away from porn sites,facebook,warez & keygens, joke emails & suspicious email with links in em.

chumscrubber
15-06-2011, 03:28 PM
1101

I am that paranoid and I donīt use IE and outlook express.

But i disagree that if you donīt use porn sites and warez sites you are protected.
You are never completely protected unless you don't use internet at all. If you want to download apps or movies or just chat doesnīt matter there is a risk to get infected anyway and thats why is needed to have antivirus and not only one

gary67
15-06-2011, 03:31 PM
Same as Speedy Microsoft anti virus and Windows7 firewall. And use Firefox sometimes Opera. Never visit dodgy sites either, or If I do then I have an old PC running Linux for doing that. I keep up to date images of my computers so i can just restore them if I get hit by something nasty and yes I always check my images to make sure they work

1101
15-06-2011, 04:04 PM
1101

But i disagree that if you donīt use porn sites and warez sites you are protected.


I NEVER said that. I suggested staying away from those sites

heres what we both said

"I have heard from many computer related people that they donīt use antivirus softwares"
I dought it it. Can be done but not recommended

You dont need the internet to get infected either.
USB drives are a great source of virus infections in corporate workplaces. Can also
get infections from CD's that come with PC mags or gaming mags. This has happened !!!!
even Blank floppies(still sealed in box) from reputable suppliers have had virus's on em.

Speedy Gonzales
15-06-2011, 04:24 PM
1101

I am that paranoid and I donīt use IE and outlook express.

But i disagree that if you donīt use porn sites and warez sites you are protected.

You dont have to use OE or IE to get infected. If you use P2P programs, you've got more chance of getting infected. And if you use an AV program and a separate firewall (if you use P2P programs), you may as well have nothing at all

I was helping a cousin up north a few weeks ago (using Teamviewer).

She works at the Warehouse. And I noticed that every time she used the photo kiosk up there, her USB flash drive / memory card kept getting infected with an autorun worm.

So, I told her to tell the warehouse to check their kiosks for infections (yes these things can get infected). And to write protect her memory card. So, it wouldnt infect the system again.

chumscrubber
15-06-2011, 04:26 PM
1101

I agree with you:) there are lots of sources for infecting PCīs

so what do you use for protection except of common sense

Speedy Gonzales

I use different firewall and AV, but some avīs and other protection software sometimes destroy each other during scanning, so if anyone uses two different avīs at the same time, first it would be better to make little research if they might be compatible

linw
15-06-2011, 04:38 PM
Frankly, if you don't use (un)common sense, you are wide open no matter what AV progs you have running. Seen it too often on other's comps. Morphing makes signature scanners useless.

Biggie is not to click on free offers of scans, toolbars etc. Fake AV is the most prevalent, lately.

I just use MSE and win FW but these won't help if I click unwisely accepting downloads!

Cellux
15-06-2011, 04:48 PM
I don't run an antivirus.

I do however run Malware Bytes + CCleaner once a month as a routine checkup it rarely finds anything though.

Speedy Gonzales
15-06-2011, 04:50 PM
1101

I agree with you:) there are lots of sources for infecting PCīs

so what do you use for protection except of common sense

Speedy Gonzales

I use different firewall and AV, but some avīs and other protection software sometimes destroy each other during scanning, so if anyone uses two different avīs at the same time, first it would be better to make little research if they might be compatible

Well you shouldn't really run 2 AV programs or firewalls . Otherwise they'll conflict with each other (firewalls more than AV programs). Some people get carried away and install everything thats on the internet!

And wonder why they still get infected ;). I wouldnt rely on ccleaner. Since its not a virus scanner. It just removes temp files, and lets you remove entries from startup

goodiesguy
15-06-2011, 05:23 PM
I don't run an antivirus.

I do however run Malware Bytes + CCleaner once a month as a routine checkup it rarely finds anything though.

I did that once on an old Dell machine a few years ago. Would not reccomend it.

Edit: this is saying i posted a 4:23pm, yet its 3:23pm

icow
16-06-2011, 09:33 AM
What went wrong?

:pf1mobmini:

gary67
16-06-2011, 10:34 AM
Someone forgot their condoms.... Hence no protection for the clock :devil

Billy T
17-06-2011, 12:38 PM
On reflection, Mrs T uses one of my USB memory sticks to get photos printed, so how do you write-protect it if it doesn't have a switch, I have a 512MB, 2 x 1GB and one 8GB and none of these have one!

I've done some research for software ways and means and it seems that some only switch an attribute in the registry of the host computer.

What is out there that is easy to apply and remove? It would be a right pain having to fart about changing it after every (photo) usage.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

sroby
17-06-2011, 04:08 PM
On reflection, Mrs T uses one of my USB memory sticks to get photos printed, so how do you write-protect it if it doesn't have a switch,

You can get USB sticks that are password protected via software on a read only partition on the stick.
Can be a bit of a pain to use.

Deimos
17-06-2011, 04:21 PM
I learned from experience that no matter how much "common sense" you think you have, you can't avoid viruses.
And if you have common sense, but do dodgy stuff on the web anyway, where does that leave you?

I use MSSE and Windows firewall, I generally leave UAC enabled unless it causes me headaches.

As for network protection, I setup a pfsense router for home and office, and at home I use a peerblock plugin in pfsense to block known bad addresses, seems to work OK.

pctek
17-06-2011, 06:02 PM
So I use BitDefender antivirus with all its features, malwarebytes antimalware, spybot search & destroy and comodo firewall. I donīt use them all at once ofcourse.

Why not? What one might miss another often finds.
You should use them all at once. All of mine do an extensive scan on Sunday, I may randomly run them other days of the week if I feel like it.

And I have loads of them......

bot
17-06-2011, 06:55 PM
Why not? What one might miss another often finds.
You should use them all at once. All of mine do an extensive scan on Sunday, I may randomly run them other days of the week if I feel like it.

And I have loads of them......

I don't really care about protection. Never had an 'accidental' virus at all.

Though I do run Avast just to be safe.

PPp
17-06-2011, 09:16 PM
In the end it's a percentage thing. You may not get an infection if you browse safe sites occasionally, and don't use protection. BUT you would be toying with high chances of a really bad outcome.
On the other hand using an AV, Firewall and recommended malware scanners (all updated regularly and used regularly) will give you much better odds of not getting infected so badly, if at all.
Thats Life. This advice( with a bit of translation ) applies to applies to many aspects of our lives, sex, drinking, driving ,finance, etc
Sorry for getting philosophical:)
P.

pctek
18-06-2011, 08:58 AM
. Never had an 'accidental' virus at all.

.

How do you know?
The stupid malware pops up and demands you do something, like click here and give your credit card.

The nasty smart malware keeps quiet and does everything it can so you are oblivious.