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chumscrubber
14-06-2011, 02:47 PM
Hello everybody ;)

I was thinking about moving in NZ, as everyone says its a paradise on earth, so i said why not. But the problem is that iīm studding to be a computer technician (repairing computers and installing nets) and i have no idea if there is any demand for the people of my profession. The Thing is that i could work in other places too but i really love computers...

any advice?

Snorkbox
14-06-2011, 02:51 PM
What qualifications do you currently have?

Perhaps brush up your use of the language as well. Studding does not go down well here unless you are a builder maybe. :)

chumscrubber
14-06-2011, 03:03 PM
no qualifications yet. i`ll wait until i get my certificates (including cisco) then i have a job opportunity here in madrid. I might not be fluent in English but I know enough. I also speak other languages. do I still got chances? :D

Snorkbox
14-06-2011, 03:06 PM
Without any qualifications at all you would seem to have little chance of an IT job in New Zealand given our current unemployment rate.

gary67
14-06-2011, 03:13 PM
With qualifications you might have a chance, it's difficult to know though as most businesses if any do not reply if you write to them from overseas. The only real thing you could do is come here for a holiday and then go cold calling. Be warned though that you might not like NZ as it is quite remote from the rest of the world, it is not cheap easy travel like it is in Europe

chumscrubber
14-06-2011, 03:19 PM
Qualification is not a problem, i will get a job (in Orange) as soon as i finish. I wanted to know if ITīs are still needed somewhere else :D

gary67

I know, i have a friend from Wellington, and as she described me, it really seemed like paradise:) Iīm fed of Europe. I want to live in a place as remote as possible (with wifi of course ) for a year at least and your country suits me perfectly i think :)

Nomad
14-06-2011, 03:32 PM
only my view.

yes you need to be here to apply for jobs, they just don't reply to you. but i'm still wondering that if you have no work permit, many may not want to work thru the process.

also that people i know who started in IT with certs etc., and with a uni degree had their first job in helpdesk. i don't imagine it would be easy getting a tech role first up.

Speedy Gonzales
14-06-2011, 03:33 PM
Orange?? Where's that? I know thats in Australia, / NSW, it's not in NZ

Nomad
14-06-2011, 03:35 PM
perhaps madrid?

Snorkbox
14-06-2011, 03:37 PM
Speedy,

Probably this:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Espa%C3%B1a

:)

QW.
14-06-2011, 03:37 PM
Orange?? Where's that? I know thats in Australia, / NSW, it's not in NZ

Cellhphone network based in the EU

Speedy Gonzales
14-06-2011, 03:42 PM
So why would you move here get into something like IT, then go back again?

chumscrubber
14-06-2011, 03:49 PM
Orange like Vodafone or AT&T

well, I like Madrid and I i will continue my career here, but for some reasons (which are completely off topic) I would love to live in NZ for a while, at least i could repair and secure my neighbourīs computers :D
but as you guys say it seems that there is no better situation than in europe

pctek
14-06-2011, 03:54 PM
I wanted to know if ITīs are still needed somewhere else :D


i have a friend from Wellington, and as she described me, it really seemed like paradise:)

Paradise?? Wellington is known for being cold and having huge winds.
Parts of NZ are pretty - tourist spots for instance. But they are not the same spots where the main cities are and the main cities are where the work is. What there is of it.

IT, well if you have masses of experience - never mind qualifications - and are looking for a senior role or a specialised IT role, then yes, there is some work.
General newbies or dogsbody techs - forget it - there is an oversupply already.

Our economy is rubbish, all we have to offer the rest of the world is sheep and milk powder. We don't make anything here anymore, we have far too many imports from China and we are getting (collectively, as a country) further into debt.

If you have work coming up, take it.

chumscrubber
14-06-2011, 04:07 PM
pctek
funny post... sad though.
I was taught at school that NZ had one of the best economy. Anyway I just wanted to get some kind of computer related job for a year or so, I didnīt really wanted digging holes or milking sheeps.

P.S. your signature is awesome ;)

Lurking
14-06-2011, 04:24 PM
Our economy is rubbish, all we have to offer the rest of the world is sheep and milk powder.

pctech, he/she is in Spain how much has the EU just loaned them !!.

As you say NZ is in the c r a p as well and it's to China that we will become "slaves" to their rates of pay.

Lurking.

Ps. just come back from queuing for water once again, and it pays to come from the Pacific Islands, while they are filling their 20 litre containers, one of their group hops away to bring back more empty containers to fill, and not a word from us !! is this pc or what !

lurks.

pctek
14-06-2011, 05:15 PM
I was taught at school that NZ had one of the best economy. I didnīt really wanted digging holes or milking sheeps.


Even sheep milkers might be redundant, they've started introducing robotic milking systems. (in the paper yesterday)

Once upon a time it was good. Now though:

NZ economy weak

10/02/2011 9:36:00

A senior economist is saying the New Zealand economy is weak, no matter whether we're in a recession or not.

That's the feeling of BERL chief economist Ganesh Nana who says discussion over whether we're in a double dip recession or not, is irrelevant.

The Government is concerned the country may be in the midst of a double dip recession, defined as two successive quarters where the economy shrinks.

The economy shrank 0.2% in the September 2010 quarter and the next GDP figures are due out at the end of March.

Mr Nana says what really matters is that 150,000 people are out of work.


yes I do know about Spain, yes, there are other countries with worse, doesn't mean NZ is doing well though.

gary67
14-06-2011, 06:45 PM
Best bet would be to come over after Christmas with a short term working visa and go fruit picking, plenty of work for that from February onwards for about 3-4 months

wmoore
14-06-2011, 08:42 PM
Chumscrubber

http://www.expatexposed.com/

For some other points of view.

Vallis
14-06-2011, 08:58 PM
You may find my view of my country useful:

The good:
http://www.mistywindow.com/my-new-zealand/

The not-so-good:
http://www.mistywindow.com/my-countrys-going-down-the-gurgler/ a series of 5 or 6 pages on New Zealand's gradual economic decline relative to the rest of the world.

Leave a message while you're visiting my website. :)

Vallis
14-06-2011, 09:00 PM
@wmoore

Your link seems to be dead from where I'm sitting.
:(

Vallis
14-06-2011, 09:01 PM
Chumscrubber

http://www.expatexposed.com/

For some other points of view.

http://www.expatsexposed.com/ works.
Did you miss out an 's'?

somebody
14-06-2011, 09:05 PM
Without any qualifications at all you would seem to have little chance of an IT job in New Zealand given our current unemployment rate.

Unfortunately we have both unemployment, AND a lot of jobs which employers are struggling to fill due to a lack of suitable candidates. It seems it's not an issue confined to the IT industry: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/employment/news/article.cfm?c_id=11&objectid=10732025

I have in the last week been informed of companies looking for and struggling to fill the following positions in Wellington - total of 13+ roles:
- Web developers/designers
- Windows server & desktop administrators
- Database Administrators (Oracle, SQL Server)
- Software Developers (mainly Java)

wmoore
15-06-2011, 01:29 AM
http://www.expatsexposed.com/ works.
Did you miss out an 's'?

No

http://www.expatexposed.com is working for me.

your link goes to

http://www.newzealand.com/travel/about-nz/features/super-tvc/super-tvc_home.cfm :D

chumscrubber
15-06-2011, 02:00 AM
Thanks a lot for your replies. I read all the articles linked here and i have a feeling that its all about points of view. The situation canīt be so bad. I guess best option will to save some money here and donīt count on getting job there

Snorkbox
15-06-2011, 02:53 AM
Thanks a lot for your replies. I read all the articles linked here and i have a feeling that its all about points of view. The situation canīt be so bad. I guess best option will to save some money here and donīt count on getting job there

Probably the best option I suspect.