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jwin
10-03-2011, 02:20 PM
Hey im looking for a new PC not really to clued up on specs so thought ill seek the experts for help

The way im going to use it is to mainly run virtual machines to practise on for school work mainly, watching videos and using the internet

not really into gaming so i dont know if i need a high spec vid card

ive found some machines on trade me that seem good for the price and was wondering if you guys could give them the once over to see what ya think and what type of questions i should ask the vendor?

Any help would be awesome

my total would be between $800 - $900 not looking for any OS or software

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Desktops/No-monitor/auction-359860950.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Desktops/No-monitor/auction-359717370.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Desktops/No-monitor/auction-358754518.htm

Cato
10-03-2011, 02:26 PM
I would get the first one just for the USB3 - which is the only real difference between them.

You'll survive with the integrated graphics chips they come with, if you don't game.

wratterus
10-03-2011, 02:30 PM
I would personally not buy a new PC off trademe. No mention is made of the brand/model of the PSU. Also, the warranty is hopeless - 18 months?? Most of the components in there will have a 3 year manufacturers warranty. And 12GHz CPU? Seriously, anyone who lists a PC with a 3GHz quad core as being a 12GHz shouldn't be trusted for a start.

You're far better off getting someone like ComputerLounge to build you one.

Snorkbox
10-03-2011, 02:39 PM
But it comes with Win7 trailware. :clap

wainuitech
10-03-2011, 03:31 PM
Trial Ware of W7, Well is possible - if you install W7 with out entering a Product key,it will run fine for 30 days or re arm it, and get 120 Days- then requires activation at which time you have to enter a product key, so I spose that can be classed as a Trial.

OR install the trial version of W7 which is The enterprise version (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/cc442495.aspx?ITPID=wtcpgs) 90 Days. Trouble is, with the enterprise version it has to be uninstalled when it runs out, as it wont downgrade to Home or even pro.

Snorkbox
10-03-2011, 03:34 PM
The site said trail rather than trial BTW!!!!

wratterus
10-03-2011, 03:35 PM
The site said trail rather than trial BTW!!!!

Sounds like clothing & apparel.

wainuitech
10-03-2011, 03:45 PM
The site said trail rather than trial BTW!!!! Didn't catch that - Maybe Microsoft have a new version:p

Windows 7 Rough Terrain :D

pctek
10-03-2011, 03:49 PM
None of them.

For proper after sales service and a proper WARRANTY go to either Computerlounge or Playtech.

These TM guys can't even get the specs right - 12Ghz CPU my ass.

Cicero
10-03-2011, 04:33 PM
To each his own, but I like a name attached to my builds.

icow
10-03-2011, 08:44 PM
None of them.

For proper after sales service and a proper WARRANTY go to either Computerlounge or Playtech.

These TM guys can't even get the specs right - 12Ghz CPU my ass.
Don't buy a computer from someone who is dumb enough to times cpu speed by amount of cores.

icow
10-03-2011, 09:16 PM
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/systems/systemdetail.asp?systypeid=4

jwin
10-03-2011, 09:29 PM
thanks guys for all your advice i like the computer even tho they are lil bit more expensive i know ill be saving in the long run in time and service

thanks all, keep the advice coming in if you have more to give

Strommer
11-03-2011, 07:27 AM
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/systems/systemdetail.asp?systypeid=4


That is a very good system but imo it is an overkill for your stated needs. You can reduce the price by eliminating the video card and using onboard graphics (I assume the mb has that), also by using a cheaper cpu, and perhaps you can transfer your optical drive from your old pc. Computer Lounge is a top company and you can be assured of quality components and excellent service. Phone them and say you are interested in the system in icow's link, tell them your needs (not for gaming, etc.) and ask if they can make a few changes to bring the price down. BTW, the Trademe pc's do 'look' good and may in fact be perfect for your needs and wallet, but you are taking a chance with possible cheap components and dodgy service.

Strommer
11-03-2011, 07:38 AM
By contrast, look at this: http://www.edencomputers.co.nz/pk.aspx?1121

I cannot recall if Eden Computers is recommended by PF1ers, but you will see that the price is very low and the components look 'OK' except for the low powered ps. However for another $100 - $200 you could get an even better system and still be in your price range. I had a look at PriceSpy and a couple of other pc companies but could not find what I was looking for: A store where you can customize your pc by choosing components (such as with Dell Computers). No doubt someone will tell you a shop that will customize a pc for you. Computer Lounge probably will do this.

icow
11-03-2011, 07:55 AM
By contrast, look at this: http://www.edencomputers.co.nz/pk.aspx?1121

I cannot recall if Eden Computers is recommended by PF1ers, but you will see that the price is very low and the components look 'OK' except for the low powered ps. However for another $100 - $200 you could get an even better system and still be in your price range. I had a look at PriceSpy and a couple of other pc companies but could not find what I was looking for: A store where you can customize your pc by choosing components (such as with Dell Computers). No doubt someone will tell you a shop that will customize a pc for you. Computer Lounge probably will do this.

The only problem I could see with that is that your getting the psu that came with the case, and it's coolermaster and I have recently been told by pctek that coolermaster has a history making overrated psu's.

+1 to the bit about trademe being a gamble.
I have a friend who brought a pc off tbt2.
Specs:
Intel Quad Core Extreme @ 2.66ghz
nVidia Geforce 9800GTX
4gb DDR3
1tb HDD
DVD-RW

To start with the psu was a no brand 320w or 390w, i was surprised that it could even run the 9800GTX. Cheaparse mobo brand, cheap RAM, Cheap HDD and cheap CD drive.

On top of that the 9800GTX was the very bottom of the pile version of the card.

Don't buy from Tm unless you know what every single component is.

jwin
12-03-2011, 09:54 PM
Do you guys recommend any other sites to buy systems from computer lounge and playtek are great just wanna see if their are any other options

Strommer
12-03-2011, 10:53 PM
Do you guys recommend any other sites to buy systems from computer lounge and playtek are great just wanna see if their are any other options

Go to PriceSpy and look at the user comments for each company. This way you can avoid the one's with poor service.

Did you phone Computer Lounge and ask if they can customize a pc for you?

PPp
12-03-2011, 11:46 PM
You can go to any computer shop and they will modify their advertised models or even make one up to your own specs if you wish. This is what makes them different from the Name Brand models sold by the Name Brand stores. I have only come across one shop that refused to take my money because I wanted to pay them MORE to upgrade a graphics card on one of their advertised models. Somehow I don't deal with them anymore!

Snorkbox
12-03-2011, 11:49 PM
Check out Ascent. They are good for parts but they don't build. You could get some person to put it together for you maybe.

Cicero
13-03-2011, 08:56 AM
Do you guys recommend any other sites to buy systems from computer lounge and playtek are great just wanna see if their are any other options

It should be pointed out, that some of the best PC makers are members of this forum, if you are lucky enough to live close.

plod
13-03-2011, 10:32 AM
Do you guys recommend any other sites to buy systems from computer lounge and playtek are great just wanna see if their are any other options
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