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The Error Guy
11-01-2011, 08:42 PM
As some of you may know my old dv5's processor upped and died. SincE hp no longer stock the original and the replacement isslower I will probably be buying a new laptop.

Right now I am looking at HP's high performance and envy series, I quite like HP laptops and will be happy to buy another one.

I will be using it for mid range gaming, nothing ultra mind blowing but enough to run the latest games with mild fidelity.

What would you reccomend? I'd like a desktop much mor but I need the portability.

Price cap at 2000, HD screen is preferred but not a absolute must.


TiA and cheers for suggestions

:pf1mobmini:

pcuser42
11-01-2011, 08:46 PM
IMO stick to Asus and Toshiba.

The Error Guy
11-01-2011, 09:19 PM
Sorry for the spelling, never try to write any more than a sentence on an iTouch.

to add to that, I do a lot of image editing and programming on my machine, not just gaming although usually a capable gaming machine ill run PS adequately. It will also be the host PC for my MT table project, if it can render HD graphics and 3D smoothly it should be ok.

Also, 3D capability, nice but not required.

in my experience Asus are not that nice aesthetically and have a high cost to performance ratio. also noticed they tend to break easily. I have quite a few turn up for repairs at 'keale.

If you have a particular one you recommend I'd have a look though.

pcuser42
11-01-2011, 09:22 PM
in my experience Asus are not that nice aesthetically and have a high cost to performance ratio. also noticed they tend to break easily. I have quite a few turn up for repairs at 'keale.

If you have a particular one you recommend I'd have a look though.

I don't have a particular model in mind, I'm just saying Asus or Toshiba because everyone else on here says so. :p

In terms of reliability, my Eee 701 is turning four this year (includes a year of store display) and is still going strong. :cool:

Agent_24
11-01-2011, 09:41 PM
I say Asus and Toshiba because a certain survey (http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/laptop-reliability-survey-asus-and-toshiba-win-hp-fails/) showed they had the lowest failure rates.

Alex B
11-01-2011, 11:47 PM
Get a probook or elite book if you are going HP...this is coming from someone that fixed them for 3 years.

kenj
12-01-2011, 08:32 AM
I have a HP Pavilion dv6-3078TX Has an i7-720QM processor running Win 7 64bit.

Pleased with it :D

Ken


Processor: Intel® Core? i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
Chipset: Intel ® HM55 Express Chipset
Memory: 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 (2 DIMM)
Maximum Memory: 8GB
Hard Drive: 640GB, 5400RPM
Optical Drive: LightScribe Super Multi 8X DVD±RW with Double Layer Support
Display: 15.6\ Diagonal High-Definition LED HP Brightview Widescreen Display (1366 x 768)
Graphics: ATI Mobility Radeon? HD 5650 graphics with 1024MB DDR3 dedicated video memory
Audio: Altec Lansing internal speakers; Dolby Advanced Audio playback
Communication: Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11b/g/n WLAN, Bluetooth
I/O Ports: 4x USB 2.0 (4th shared with eSATA port), HDMI, eSATA Combo, VGA
Card Reader: 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for Secure Digital cards, MultiMedia cards, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, or xD Picture cards
Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
Security: Kensington® MicroSaver lock slot
Battery: 6-Cell Lithium-Ion (55Whr 2.55Ah)
Weight: From 2.49 kg with 6-cell battery
Dimension (WxDxH): 37.8cm (W) x 24.5cm (D) x 3.08cm (min H)/3.6cm (max H)
Colour: Argento Blush (Metal)

utopian201
12-01-2011, 10:20 AM
Get a probook or elite book if you are going HP...this is coming from someone that fixed them for 3 years.

So you're saying the midrange/high end business HP notebooks are good? ie you haven't needed to fix them in the 3 years you've worked...?

The problem is they generally wont have discrete graphics, but they will tend to have an expresscard slot which means you can use a desktop graphics card on them anyway...

Agent_24
12-01-2011, 12:15 PM
He's probably just hoping you'll buy one, knowing it will break, and then he can fix it for you :lol:

Nah they are probably the most reliable or most easy to fix, I expect.

xyz823
12-01-2011, 12:21 PM
I've had my dv6 for around 15 months now.

Only problem was the battery which they replace over the phone.

johcar
12-01-2011, 12:23 PM
I've had my dv6 for around 15 months now.

Only problem was the battery which they replace over the phone.

An interesting image. I am visualising a battery being forced into a handset microphone from the Call Centre...

Agent_24
12-01-2011, 12:23 PM
Wow, do you have a phone which support teleportation? :p

Aah, johcar has beat me to it!

Chilling_Silence
12-01-2011, 12:49 PM
I've been a big fan of the HP stuff in the last 12 months, it's been *brilliant*!!

xyz823
12-01-2011, 12:54 PM
Wow, do you have a phone which support teleportation? :p

Aah, johcar has beat me to it!

Yea I brought it back with me from the future when I went to the year 2850 with my time machine :D

pcuser42
12-01-2011, 02:17 PM
Yea I brought it back with me from the future when I went to the year 2850 with my time machine :D

Gimmie your time machine! :D

Alex B
12-01-2011, 06:49 PM
So you're saying the midrange/high end business HP notebooks are good? ie you haven't needed to fix them in the 3 years you've worked...?

The problem is they generally wont have discrete graphics, but they will tend to have an expresscard slot which means you can use a desktop graphics card on them anyway...

The higher end ones like 8xxx(i think, they have changed it again) ones usually have discrete graphics & decent res screens.

They fail much much much less often that the DV series, the build quality on those things is just rubbish compared to the business series.

Most common failures I had with business stuff were keyboards and hard drives - most of the ones that broke belonged to school teachers and didn't look like they had an easy life.

Most common part I replaced on DV series would be system board and towards the end the track pad buttons were all snapping off....yay for build quality.

And I don't do work for HP anymore.

Agent_24
12-01-2011, 07:31 PM
Interesting, and doesn't really surprise me either that the business series would be better quality.

The Error Guy
12-01-2011, 10:30 PM
At this stage i'll get one of these, its about 1155 (US?) the site wasn't clear on currency but if its US i'm safe. thats about 1600 in NZ. I'll order from the international site because as far as I can see this model is not available in NZ

HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC

Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM (2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.9 GHz
1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6570 graphics [HDMI, VGA]
FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
FREE Upgrade to 750GB 5400RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
No Additional Office Software
No additional security software
9-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (over-sized) - Up to 5.0 hours of battery life +++
17.3" diagonal HD+ HP BrightView LED Display (1600 x 900)
Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
HP TrueVision Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone + HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
Standard Keyboard
HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

Agent_24
12-01-2011, 10:45 PM
If you buy in another country can you get it repaired under warranty though if it breaks when you're back in NZ?

The Error Guy
13-01-2011, 12:18 AM
HP's warranty is worldwide from memory. Its 3rd party warranties that are country specific

8ftmetalhaed
13-01-2011, 01:01 AM
The lower end HP's are pretty much slightly less crappy compaq computers. Same materials, just different colours and badges.
High end anything will pretty much always be better than lower end of the same brand. In the case of HP and Dell high end is infinitely better than low end.

The Error Guy
13-01-2011, 02:44 AM
Ugh, low Dell. Laptops. A mate of mine has one. A useless brick if I ever did see one

:pf1mobmini:

Cicero
13-01-2011, 08:07 AM
I wonder if Dell beacame the biggest seller of computers by being rubbish?

johcar
13-01-2011, 08:53 AM
I wonder if Dell beacame the biggest seller of computers by being rubbish?

They most certainly did!

Cicero
13-01-2011, 09:19 AM
They most certainly did!

The so called business experts would have a hard time explaining that away!

Alex B
13-01-2011, 09:45 AM
They fix international stuff under waranty but it takes ages to get the parts in.

johcar
13-01-2011, 09:49 AM
The so called business experts would have a hard time explaining that away!

No they wouldn't. It's just strong marketing, a low price point and selling to sheep (generally) who don't know any better, or who have low expectations anyway.

Cicero
13-01-2011, 01:39 PM
No they wouldn't. It's just strong marketing, a low price point and selling to sheep (generally) who don't know any better, or who have low expectations anyway.

I am reluctant to argue with such an expert on marketing.