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Krad
16-12-2010, 08:59 AM
Have been using Avast Antivirus program for years quite happily but removed it because I was advised that only one anti virus program should be used and that MS essentials was all needed. However I read in PC World etc that MSE is slow and misses many malwares compared to Avast and other anti programs. So should I remove MSE and go back to Avast (or another free program)? Any advice appreciated.

Driftwood
16-12-2010, 09:17 AM
Stick with MSSE for now, have a read through this thread.

http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?t=113171&highlight=Essentials+Avast+Microsoft+Security

kahawai chaser
16-12-2010, 09:18 AM
Perhaps search previous threads, where both AV's have been heavily discussed (at least 2 threads), by several PF1 members.

Snorkbox
16-12-2010, 10:11 AM
I'm happy with MSE.

Bobh
16-12-2010, 10:17 AM
I used Avast for a year or two. It was ok.

I now use MSE and have no intentions of changing.

1101
16-12-2010, 10:38 AM
Have the issues with MSSE slowdowns/high CPU use on some PC's been resolved, or still ongoing??

MS have had several attempts at AV software over the years, I have to wonder how long before MSSE is quietly shelved/no longer actively supported.

Speedy Gonzales
16-12-2010, 11:01 AM
V2 may fix the high CPU usage. There is a beta of it. Dont know if anyone can get it tho.

Driftwood
16-12-2010, 11:18 AM
Have the issues with MSSE slowdowns/high CPU use on some PC's been resolved, or still ongoing??

MS have had several attempts at AV software over the years, I have to wonder how long before MSSE is quietly shelved/no longer actively supported.

Have you actually tryed it?
I have it on several pc's of varying horsepower with no problems.
What is your one of choice?

wainuitech
16-12-2010, 12:22 PM
V2 may fix the high CPU usage. There is a beta of it. Dont know if anyone can get it tho. if you look around, you can Get it (http://www.ghacks.net/2010/07/20/microsoft-security-essentials-beta-downloads/) -- Links about half way down the page - someone uploaded to a file sharing program.

Just trying it -- Current version from MS (http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Latest.JPG) -- From those links Version 2 (http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/V2.JPG) -- it asks to turn on the windows Firewall when installing. Task Manager when Idle (http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Task_Manger.JPG) and When Scanning (http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Scanning.JPG). of course this is on a workshop XP media PC, P4 3.0 with 1 GB RAM -- so only playing about, but even when scanning it didn't really effect any other actions relating to speed.

1101
16-12-2010, 12:29 PM
Have you actually tryed it?


Yes, on a few PC's. I stopped after a Vista PC was ground to a halt by it.

SP8's
16-12-2010, 04:52 PM
Security Essentials ..... only thing i miss about Avast is the cool warning sound when something tries getting through .... come on Microsoft ... get your $hit together and give us some sounds ... :D

Bobh
16-12-2010, 05:47 PM
Security Essentials ..... only thing i miss about Avast is the cool warning sound when something tries getting through .... come on Microsoft ... get your $hit together and give us some sounds ... :D

Yes you certainly knew when Avast found something suspicious. Everyone knew when my computer had a virus. Bit like Star Wars. Scary for older people though.

Snorkbox
16-12-2010, 05:54 PM
Yes, on a few PC's. I stopped after a Vista PC was ground to a halt by it.

A Vista PC with 512 Meg RAM or less perhaps?

Speedy Gonzales
16-12-2010, 06:49 PM
I had a laptop with Vista and 512mb on it the other day. The person wanted to know why it was so slow. She wasnt kidding lol. Even if you kill the eye candy, it made no diff.

And you'll be lucky if MSSE installs. It would take an hr just to get the mouse on the install file. Every move of the mouse made it freeze. So I wiped the lot, and put XP on it.

waldok
16-12-2010, 07:29 PM
For the Security Essentials v2 beta:

As far as I know anyone can register for Connect (free) and then join the Security Essentials public beta to download it. The latest beta update has an adjustable CPU throttle in the Settings (default at 50%).

http://connect.microsoft.com/

wainuitech
16-12-2010, 08:48 PM
What a round about way of "hiding it" its almost impossible to find -- BUT direct link once you sign up to connect https://connect.microsoft.com/securityessentials/program5804

Speedy Gonzales
17-12-2010, 09:11 AM
Version 2 of MSSE is out now (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/support.aspx?mkt=en-us). Doesnt look like it appears in windowsupdate yet. Not too sure if you have to uninstall betas if you use them. But it looks like you can install over 1.x. If you decide to download diff versions for different OS's remember to make a folder/s first. Then download the file/s. Since all the different files for x86 and x64 have the same name

1101
17-12-2010, 09:50 AM
A Vista PC with 512 Meg RAM or less perhaps?

Ha, nice try :)
Even a quick google will show how widespread this high cpu usage bug was... not on every PC of course
I just wanted to know if it was ever resolved.

Snorkbox
17-12-2010, 09:56 AM
Oh well. All I can say is that it works fine on the PCs I've installed it on.

gary67
17-12-2010, 10:55 AM
Just upgraded one XP and one win7 64bit and so far still chugging along nicely. It even picked up something on my flash drive that the previous version missed. Nothing serious though

waldok
17-12-2010, 06:51 PM
Actually, for Security Essentials 2, it came out of beta today. So no need to use Connect, just go straight to the Microsoft Security Essentials site to get the bits.

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

cheers
W

Bobh
17-12-2010, 07:47 PM
Actually, for Security Essentials 2, it came out of beta today. So no need to use Connect, just go straight to the Microsoft Security Essentials site to get the bits.

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

cheers
W

Just successfully downloaded the update no problems. I would expect the update to come out in Windows Update.

gary67
18-12-2010, 07:43 AM
Upgraded all of our computers yesterday fine

waldok
18-12-2010, 07:52 AM
Same here ... :)

For those who are interested what's new, there's a summary here:
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/Microsoft-Security-Essentials-2.aspx


Windows Firewall integration.
New protection engine.
MSE 2 now helps protect against network-based exploits.
CPU throttling.
Opt out of SpyNet.

cheers
W

Speedy Gonzales
18-12-2010, 08:08 AM
The site is dead

wainuitech
18-12-2010, 11:34 AM
Its currently going now 12.33pm Saturday.

Driftwood
18-12-2010, 04:28 PM
So, do you still have to disable spynet & stop it from scanning itself?

Speedy Gonzales
18-12-2010, 04:47 PM
If you mean go into the registry to disable it, then no. Its got an option to disable it in the program

prefect
18-12-2010, 05:46 PM
Wainui put me onto MSE to fix a problem had no issues other two computer running AVG