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Newteach
05-12-2010, 01:31 PM
I live with three woman, one wife and two teenage daughters, I got my man shed all arranged, tools, lounge suite, tv, beer fridge coming. Now just need to be able to get the internet and I'm ready to move in. Problem being no internet and wireless from the house doesn't seem to quite reach. Am connected to xtra via a thompon wireless rounter. Distance from router to my man shed is approximately 50 - 60 mts. Any Ideas? Thanks.

NT

wainuitech
05-12-2010, 01:46 PM
From the router, run a Ethernet cable to the shed.

Depending on the layout of the house & property, you can either run it along a fence, or like I did, dig a shallow trench across the yard (three - four inches deep), under the house, up through the floor to mounting box, and run the cable through some Conduct.

At the shed end, have it connecting into a mounting box,( this is so you can terminate it off) then from that to a Switch if you want more than one outlet > to what ever devices you want.

You can basically go to approx 100Mtrs, then there may be a bit of lag etc.

Speedy Gonzales
05-12-2010, 01:48 PM
Either get a better modem, (with more ports), if its has only got one port, and a long ethernet cable. Or wireless repeaters

somebody
05-12-2010, 01:58 PM
Either get a better modem, (with more ports), if its has only got one port, and a long ethernet cable. Or wireless repeaters

The Thompson routers distributed by Telecom have 4 LAN ports on the back.

Speedy Gonzales
05-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Thats why I said IF. I've never seen one, so dont know what it looks like, or what its got

berryb
05-12-2010, 03:28 PM
As Wainuitech said, go hard wired if you can but if not wireless can do that distance easy with the right hardware. Give Dale a ring at Go Wireless NZ http://www.gowifi.co.nz/ This is who I use for all my wireless requirements and he knows his stuff :)

Metla
05-12-2010, 09:24 PM
I have a 60m network cable running out to my cave, It runs straight out a window, is pinned along the side of the house, then runs to the shed,over the shed roof, down the back wall, through another window and into the PC.

Shes been sitting out there for about 5 years now, and shes still going strong.

Chilling_Silence
05-12-2010, 10:38 PM
Yeah you're *supposed* to use a special outdoor ethernet cable, but I wouldn't bother for just general home use. You'd be better to replace the cable when you run over it with the lawn mower or whatever rather than have it see out the end of its days.

Erayd
06-12-2010, 12:43 AM
Mmm... and if you want to protect the cable with something (prevent UV damage, pests eating the cable etc) standard garden hose is excellent for this.

Agent_24
06-12-2010, 02:11 AM
I recommend the use of proper gel-filled outdoor cable.

The reason for this is apparent if you use normal cable and water gets in somehow.

The water works its way along the cable and out the ends. Happened to a friend of mine. Not very good for your PC\Router when water is coming out of the Ethernet cable.

Chilling_Silence
06-12-2010, 08:12 AM
Water can still work its way along the outside of a cable if you don't lay it right, regardless of if it's the proper outdoor stuff or not?

Agent_24
06-12-2010, 10:47 AM
That's true, but I'm talking about inside the cable.

dugimodo
06-12-2010, 11:14 AM
if you want to run it once and have it work forever bury a proper external cable in the ground, if you are happy to repair or replace it every so often just use normal cat 5 - it can work for years as stated. The external cable is much tougher and is waterproof, UV proof etc.

Another trick is to use 20mm conduit buried to protect the cable, fairly cheap to buy.

And one more note, 2 pair homelan phone cable is cheap and will work fine for 100M despite not being officially supported. 100 base T ethernet only uses 2 pairs. I have personally used it at close to 50M with no issues. You need pins 1&2 TX and 3&6 RX wired for 100M ethernet.

johnd
06-12-2010, 08:06 PM
I second using the proper outdoor cable if you decide cable is the way. If you put ordinary cable in conduit, water will probably get into the conduit.

There are some quite good aerials around for about $60 that give (say) 9dBi gain. You can start with one end only and if that doesn't do the job, add one at the other end too. I have experience in converting a system that did not reliably work into one that does with one of these aerials.

Or make you own "cantenna" - see http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html

linw
06-12-2010, 08:18 PM
And let us know when you are having the opening!!

Paul.Cov
06-12-2010, 08:37 PM
You've got one more priority before you even consider the internet to your man shed... a lock to protect your sanctuary from those she-devils that would otherwise violate the peace of the sanctum!

The Error Guy
06-12-2010, 08:44 PM
You've got one more priority before you even consider the internet to your man shed... a lock to protect your sanctuary from those she-devils that would otherwise violate the peace of the sanctum!

Na, otherwise how can they bring you your sandwich?

pine-o-cleen
06-12-2010, 09:55 PM
Na, otherwise how can they bring you your sandwich?

"Leave the sandwich at the door and go!"

Renmoo
06-12-2010, 10:32 PM
Sudo make me a sandwich

Deimos
07-12-2010, 10:17 AM
Forget about outdoor cable, just run a conduit, it's easy enough to replace the cable if you run in to problems.

:pf1mobmini:

gary67
07-12-2010, 11:21 AM
Na, otherwise how can they bring you your sandwich?

Sandwich sized hatch in door (bit like a catflap)

The Error Guy
07-12-2010, 11:28 AM
Sudo make me a sandwich

sudo apt get make sandwich
Error: Timeout
del \\House\women
Error: Access Denied

Gobe1
08-12-2010, 09:18 AM
Network over power line
http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=86/ID=13741/SID=286868442/productdetails.html

Gobe1
08-12-2010, 09:23 AM
sudo apt get make sandwich
Error: Timeout
del \\Home\women
Error: Access Denied
rm -f spouse
root:\>


Fixed that for you :D

Agent_24
08-12-2010, 11:54 AM
Network over power line
http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=86/ID=13741/SID=286868442/productdetails.html

Not a bad idea but Ethernet will be much more reliable and have better performance...

1101
08-12-2010, 04:24 PM
Possible issues
earth loop
voltage differentials between earth@shed & earth@house
shed being on a different phase:unlikely & not sure if it may cause issues

but being Kiwi men, just run a cable & prop it off he ground with sticks
:p

Snorkbox
08-12-2010, 04:39 PM
Possible issues
earth loop
voltage differentials between earth@shed & earth@house
shed being on a different phase:unlikely & not sure if it may cause issues

but being Kiwi men, just run a cable & prop it off he ground with sticks
:p

Said Women can then use it as a clothes line. :)