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prefect
23-11-2010, 07:55 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/nyregion/23bicycle.html?hp

coldfront
23-11-2010, 09:08 AM
The ends fit your means.

johcar
23-11-2010, 09:19 AM
Well, you'd expect that in the US where everyone is born with a V8 and four wheels semi-permanently attached. :D

Have you seen the size of Americans these days???!!! :horrified :yuck:

And Kiwis are heading that direction too!! :stare:

prefect
23-11-2010, 09:29 AM
Well, you'd expect that in the US where everyone is born with a V8 and four wheels semi-permanently attached. :D

Have you seen the size of Americans these days???!!! :horrified :yuck:

And Kiwis are heading that direction too!! :stare:

Yeah you see them on TV also noticed by that TM founders father who did motorbike trip across US. He saw people in mobility scooters lined up at greasy joints strange when it was the same places that got them in scooter.
Havent heard any whining here in NZ about bike lanes I would imagine you would get shot down like a Syrian MiG over Isreal.

johcar
23-11-2010, 09:44 AM
Plenty of bleaters here about bike lanes - a Devonport sociopath was heading a faction against the Lake Rd Cycle Lanes that was very vocal.

He's gone quiet lately though. Perhaps he's seen the error of his ways.

Or perhaps (and more likely) Devonport residents have finally realised that the presence of the cycle lanes makes absolutely no difference to their travel time in a car, and actually helps their neighbours and their children who choose to ride a bike for whatever reason, be it financial, "earth-saving", fitness, fresh air, professional sport training, personal preference etc.

prefect
23-11-2010, 09:50 AM
Plenty of bleaters here about bike lanes - a Devonport sociopath was heading a faction against the Lake Rd Cycle Lanes that was very vocal. He's gone quiet lately though. Perhaps he's seen the error of his ways.

Did the pickled pedallers shake him down lol.

johcar
23-11-2010, 09:55 AM
I don't think he counted on a counter-petition to his one that got more local signatures than his did. Nor did he count on the perseverance of a strong bike group (the Xpressos) made up of all sorts of people from all over the Devonport/Belmont area, and good levels of support from the local council (which, of course, is now extinct).

We didn't need to get our 'big guns' out!! :D

prefect
23-11-2010, 10:04 AM
Are the Xpressos a rival bike gang lol do you do pedal bys?

johcar
23-11-2010, 10:11 AM
:D

Terry Porritt
23-11-2010, 10:30 AM
Are the Xpressos a rival bike gang lol do you do pedal bys?

I vaguely remember a Dad's Army episode where Pike mounted the Tommy Gun on his bicycle.

prefect
23-11-2010, 10:33 AM
I think these guys would be squirting water bottles on pedal bys.

mikebartnz
23-11-2010, 10:37 AM
They have just created quite a few here in Masterton and some of them are just stupid and likely to have the opposite effect of what they want. I would be a lot more sympathetic of them if the cycle numbers were increasing not decreasing. You hardly see any school children cycling to school now.

johcar
23-11-2010, 12:41 PM
They have just created quite a few here in Masterton and some of them are just stupid and likely to have the opposite effect of what they want. I would be a lot more sympathetic of them if the cycle numbers were increasing not decreasing. You hardly see any school children cycling to school now.

Perhaps that's because of the perception (fact?) that it's too dangerous for kids to ride without a cycle lane - and probably an adult escort as well - these days?

Not like 25-30 years ago.

Far more traffic on the roads today with vehicles travelling much faster, with drivers much more impatient.

More idiots behind the wheel, too, because the vicious circle of traffic volume increase has prevented so many of the current crop of drivers from getting on a bike (pedal or motor) to get a feel for the road (not literally!) before driving their 1.5 - 3 tonne death machines.

roddy_boy
23-11-2010, 01:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TuBHq.jpg

mikebartnz
23-11-2010, 01:24 PM
Perhaps that's because of the perception (fact?) that it's too dangerous for kids to ride without a cycle lane - and probably an adult escort as well - these days?

Not like 25-30 years ago.

Far more traffic on the roads today with vehicles travelling much faster, with drivers much more impatient.

More idiots behind the wheel, too, because the vicious circle of traffic volume increase has prevented so many of the current crop of drivers from getting on a bike (pedal or motor) to get a feel for the road (not literally!) before driving their 1.5 - 3 tonne death machines.
I agree with what you have said. There have definitely been too many cyclist killed on the road lately but I think it is more perception than fact that todays parents will not let their precious little ones ride or walk to school today. If they did there would be one hell of a lot fewer cars on the road at those times.
While I have seen many cyclists breaking the road rules it is probably in proportion to car drivers but as they are so much more vulnerable they need to be more aware. For about five years I used to ride a motorbike on the road and it made me far more aware of what other drivers were doing.

prefect
23-11-2010, 03:18 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TuBHq.jpg

HAHA thats the Lincoln road, triangle road Central Park intersection.

coldfront
23-11-2010, 03:42 PM
todays parents will not let their precious little ones ride or walk to school today. If they did there would be one hell of a lot fewer cars on the road at those times.

When I was at school at 20 minute walk to school was not unheard of.

Our next door neigbour drives their kids to school.

How far does our neighbour live from the school? 300 metres :stare:

mikebartnz
23-11-2010, 03:46 PM
When I was at school at 20 minute walk to school was not unheard of.

Our next door neigbour drives their kids to school.

How far does our neighbour live from the school? 300 metres :stare:
We really are following the Yanks in how we have to drive everywhere.
What exercise do their precious little rug rats get?

johcar
23-11-2010, 03:47 PM
Thanks roddy_boy - like it! :thumbs: I've linked to it on our forum...

Yep - there are hypocrites everywhere. I don't deny that some cyclists are just like that (and I never have denied it), but there are other road users like that too.

Hypocrisy is part of the human condition.

prefect
24-11-2010, 12:28 AM
The ends fit your means.
This has me puzzled what does the comment mean? At Mot High I was more interested in girls piss and motorbikes and didnt pay attention in English class.