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Misty
01-11-2010, 02:31 PM
Am trying to decide about a monitor for which photography will be the prime and most demanding use. I love my photography.

I was shown an LG 2353V-PF by PB Technology (who are probably the place I will buy from)

Just done a search as looked at a closed thread 96737. I see that some time back Bantu recommended Viewsonic and Nyuuji the Samsung.

Consumer Magazine recommend Viewsonic too.

However Viewsonic tend to be more expensive -- but may be the way I have to go !

Has anyone got any recommendations or thoughts please ?
Misty :confused:

SoniKalien
01-11-2010, 02:54 PM
Viewsonic are good, and probably worth the price. Make sure when you shop around, look closely at warranties and the 'dead pixel' policy.

I am going to buy an LG LED LG E2340V-PN after reading reviews etc - I think the LED backlight would give you better 'dark contrast' making it more suitable for photo work than a standard LCD with a fluro tube.

DeSade
01-11-2010, 03:04 PM
http://tinyurl.com/muwhahahahaha

I have two of these, the colour reproduction is spectacular.

Nomad
01-11-2010, 04:38 PM
Am trying to decide about a monitor for which photography will be the prime and most demanding use. I love my photography.

I was shown an LG 2353V-PF by PB Technology (who are probably the place I will buy from)

Just done a search as looked at a closed thread 96737. I see that some time back Bantu recommended Viewsonic and Nyuuji the Samsung.

Consumer Magazine recommend Viewsonic too.

However Viewsonic tend to be more expensive -- but may be the way I have to go !

Has anyone got any recommendations or thoughts please ?
Misty :confused:

You may want to visit a photography forum like photo.net.
I have a Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel if you can afford that.

I have a monitor calibrator and I calibrate all my screeens, incl a ultraportable laptop and our CRT, after calibration there are still obvious differences. My Dell comes out best :D

Misty
01-11-2010, 05:22 PM
You may want to visit a photography forum like photo.net.
I have a Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel if you can afford that.

I have a monitor calibrator and I calibrate all my screeens, incl a ultraportable laptop and our CRT, after calibration there are still obvious differences. My Dell comes out best :D
Hi Nomad
I really appreciate your feedback and that of the previous two above. I visit photo.net every day (far more than PressF1 even). Not long ago I did a search on this very subject. However most of the brands mentioned we don't get in NZ, though Dell was mentioned favourably, and Apple, quite a few times.

I visited PB Technology, North Shore, again today and the monitors on display were LG, Samsung and Acer. The particular Samsung that I saw was clearly better than the others. Much more vibrancy.

Although I don't doubt DeSade's comments re 'Alienware' I probably won't be buying that as would get a bit complicated if I buy from PB Tech.

SoniKalien's comments re a particular LG noted and I will be looking at 'dark contrast' and dead pixel policy too.
Misty :)

PinoyKiw
01-11-2010, 06:45 PM
Which ever monitor you get, invest in something like a Spider so that you can calibrate the monitors for get accurate or closer to correct colour etc.

Not hard to use either.

Another photo site that can be useful is http://www.fredmiranda.com/

PPp
01-11-2010, 07:43 PM
I too have found PBtech to give good service, but like most retailers they are restricted in the products they sell. My advice, concentrate on the product first, and where to buy it second. Thats makes the whole process more simple and easier to make the right choice. You will find reliable retailers recommended on F1 and the same names keep coming up frequently. Hope this helps.

Misty
01-11-2010, 09:36 PM
I too have found PBtech to give good service, but like most retailers they are restricted in the products they sell. My advice, concentrate on the product first, and where to buy it second. Thats makes the whole process more simple and easier to make the right choice. You will find reliable retailers recommended on F1 and the same names keep coming up frequently. Hope this helps.
Thanks PPp
However I need the whole PC, not just the monitor. Just focussing on the monitor first as it is the most important part for my usage. Will keep your comments in mind though !
Misty :)

KarameaDave
02-11-2010, 07:23 AM
A secondhand Iiyama 510 is a good option.
A CRT, I got one for $150.
No LCD can hold a candle to it in my opinion.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/421

autechre
02-11-2010, 08:39 AM
If you're serious about your photography do not get any LCDs based on TN panels! Get one based on PVA at least or better still, IPS.

HP sell some reasonably priced IPS panels:
22" HP ZR22w (http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=580586)
24" HP ZR24w (http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=580584)
The Dell Ultrasharp range (all IPS) are also excellent, though can be pretty pricy.

Get a calibrator as mentioned earlier no matter which monitor you get. SpiderExpress3's are reasonably priced and seemed to do the job.

DeSade
02-11-2010, 08:44 AM
Yeah if your buying from PB then Alienware is out, they only sell through Dell.

utopian201
02-11-2010, 10:54 AM
If you're serious about your photography do not get any LCDs based on TN panels! Get one based on PVA at least or better still, IPS.

HP sell some reasonably priced IPS panels:
22" HP ZR22w (http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=580586)
24" HP ZR24w (http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=580584)
The Dell Ultrasharp range (all IPS) are also excellent, though can be pretty pricy.

Get a calibrator as mentioned earlier no matter which monitor you get. SpiderExpress3's are reasonably priced and seemed to do the job.

Beat me to it. If colour accuracy/image quality/contrast is important you must avoid TN panels. Pricespy lets you search by panel type.

Brand doesn't really matter, LG make the panels that go in all the best monitors:
HP zr24w/zr22w/lp2475w/lp2480zx dream colour (designed for dreamworks animation)
Dell ultrasharp series
Apple cinema display

Only the apple has a glossy face, all the other IPS screens have a matte anti glare coating. This is because there is no point having a good quality screen if all you can see is reflections and your own face.

tftcentral.co.uk lets you enter in a monitor model and it will tell you who made the panel and what type it is (TN/PVA/IPS). IPS > PVA > TN.

edit: the high end monitors used for colour proofing also have a zero pixel defect warranty too. If there are any defects, they will send you a replacement at their cost and you put your faulty one in the same box and send it back for free. That has been my experience with HP's advance replacement.

Misty
04-11-2010, 07:15 PM
If you're serious about your photography do not get any LCDs based on TN panels! Get one based on PVA at least or better still, IPS.

HP sell some reasonably priced IPS panels:
22" HP ZR22w (http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=580586)
24" HP ZR24w (http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=580584)
The Dell Ultrasharp range (all IPS) are also excellent, though can be pretty pricy.

Get a calibrator as mentioned earlier no matter which monitor you get. SpiderExpress3's are reasonably priced and seemed to do the job.
Hi autechre
I see from other forums and reviews that the Dell monitors feature pretty consistently. Have had the feeling that PressF1 people tend to keep a bit clear of Dell, however, maybe I should look at the pricing.

A query - are the HP monitors you mention matte (or are they glossy ?). Can't seem to identify that. I do like the fact that the contrast ratio is 1000:1. Most of those sold seem to be up to 60,000:1 or even more, which is not good :(
Misty :)

forrest44
04-11-2010, 09:05 PM
You could keep an eye out on Trademe for a 21" CRT with a Trinitron/Diamondtron tube, they are old but still excellent for what they are, and a lot cheaper than when they were new ~8 years ago :)

Misty
04-11-2010, 09:17 PM
You could keep an eye out on Trademe for a 21" CRT with a Trinitron/Diamondtron tube, they are old but still excellent for what they are, and a lot cheaper than when they were new ~8 years ago :)
Thanks for the suggestion forrest, however space for a CRT would be a problem !
Misty :dogeye:

Misty
05-11-2010, 10:03 AM
A query - are the HP monitors you mention matte
Misty :)
I have now found out that the HP ZR22w is matte, so will probably get that.
Now I need to check what CPU to pair it up with.
Misty :thumbs:

KarameaDave
05-11-2010, 10:11 AM
You could keep an eye out on Trademe for a 21" CRT with a Trinitron/Diamondtron tube, they are old but still excellent for what they are, and a lot cheaper than when they were new ~8 years ago :)

Very true, my Iiyama cost me $150 last year, when new they were around
$2000 I believe!!

Misty
08-11-2010, 04:00 PM
I am going to buy an LG LED LG E2340V-PN after reading reviews etc - I think the LED backlight would give you better 'dark contrast' making it more suitable for photo work than a standard LCD with a fluro tube.
Hi SoniKalien
I have just got back from a trip to PB Technology and see that this week (only) they have this very model reduced to $259 + GST (down from $299 + GST) they say. If you have not already got yours then it would seem a good time for you to jump in ! :)

As you say LED backlighting is a distinct advantage. I will probably change my mind (re monitor) and get this one too !
Misty :)

utopian201
08-11-2010, 05:01 PM
just be aware that it has a TN panel. Which means the shade of colour will change depending on where you position your head vertically. This could be a problem as you'll never know which shade is the 'true' colour.

Misty
08-11-2010, 07:03 PM
just be aware that it has a TN panel.
Hi utopian
So which type of panel should I get ?
Misty :eek:

utopian201
09-11-2010, 10:20 AM
If you're serious about your photography do not get any LCDs based on TN panels! Get one based on PVA at least or better still, IPS.
...
Get a calibrator as mentioned earlier no matter which monitor you get. SpiderExpress3's are reasonably priced and seemed to do the job.


Beat me to it. If colour accuracy/image quality/contrast is important you must avoid TN panels. Pricespy lets you search by panel type.

Brand doesn't really matter, LG make the panels that go in all the best monitors:
HP zr24w/zr22w/lp2475w/lp2480zx dream colour (designed for dreamworks animation)
Dell ultrasharp series
Apple cinema display

Only the apple has a glossy face, all the other IPS screens have a matte anti glare coating. This is because there is no point having a good quality screen if all you can see is reflections and your own face.

tftcentral.co.uk lets you enter in a monitor model and it will tell you who made the panel and what type it is (TN/PVA/IPS). IPS > PVA > TN.

edit: the high end monitors used for colour proofing also have a zero pixel defect warranty too. If there are any defects, they will send you a replacement at their cost and you put your faulty one in the same box and send it back for free. That has been my experience with HP's advance replacement.

If colour accuracy and image quality are important, you should strongly consider an IPS panel. Go to tftcentral.co.uk and enter the monitor model and it will tell you what panel it is and who made it.

Chilling_Silence
09-11-2010, 10:40 AM
Get this:
http://pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=MONLGL2340

Just ended up getting one for my wife :) Very nice monitor, especially for the price!

utopian201
09-11-2010, 11:07 AM
The OP said they need it for photography, which suggests image quality is important.
To the OP: there is a lot of information here (probably enough to overwhelm you :p), if you find normal LCD screens are ok, then you don't necessarily need to pay for a premium panel.
Here are examples of two different panel types. Sure, they are notebook screens, but the panel technologies are the same for desktop monitors. If they look the same, or the differences aren't that big to you, its probably not worth it to pay double for the image quality...

http://s988.photobucket.com/albums/af6/Aikimox/angles.jpg
http://s988.photobucket.com/albums/af6/Aikimox/green.jpg
http://s988.photobucket.com/albums/af6/Aikimox/leaves.jpg
http://s988.photobucket.com/albums/af6/Aikimox/canoe.jpg
http://s988.photobucket.com/albums/af6/Aikimox/rockies.jpg
http://s988.photobucket.com/albums/af6/Aikimox/tiger.jpg