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Trev
28-09-2010, 06:51 PM
Enjoy Here. (http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/Edwards09/Edwards09.html)
:)

allblack
28-09-2010, 07:01 PM
Very cool !!

That fly-by finale would have been outstanding.

sahilcc7
28-09-2010, 07:14 PM
AWSOME!!!

lakewoodlady
28-09-2010, 07:32 PM
AWSOME!!!

Totally WOW!!! :thanks

LL

paulw
28-09-2010, 07:37 PM
That's one airshow I would love to go to..

tut
28-09-2010, 08:28 PM
Lovely photos. Thanks for sharing

WalOne
28-09-2010, 08:51 PM
Amazing collection, thanks for sharing

:thumbs:

The Error Guy
28-09-2010, 09:04 PM
Why does the US have to have all the awesome planes

BobM
28-09-2010, 09:26 PM
Trev, that is one incredible air display. When is the next one.? ! !

Gobe1
29-09-2010, 09:00 AM
Why does the US have to have all the awesome planes

Haha.
They are so lucky to have shows like this.
Incredible photos

The Hitcher
29-09-2010, 10:18 AM
Wow, some fantastic photos there!

SurferJoe46
30-09-2010, 07:37 PM
I went to this same show in about 1988 or so at the Planes Of Fame and Confederated Air Force Air Show in Chino --- about 100 miles from Edwards AFB.

A very good friend of mine flew the B17-G from Molesworth (sp?) England during WW-II over Germany and his is the same plane in that big oil paining in The Smithsonian Museum, D.C.

His bomber was called; "Hell's Angel" and perhaps you've seen that same pix with the contrails from the engines.

Anyway - he was in the pilot's seat on the B17 ("Ain't Miss Behavin" ?? - I don't remember fer sure) that flew at that show and he took me along with him.

Damn, that thing rattled and shook so badly!

We watched the show for all three days - and of course my favorites are the 1920s Pylon Racers.

One of the greatest thrills I had was watching the Gee~Bee 'X' fly and the Brown B2 Racer called 'The Spirit Of Los Angeles'. They had a Mr. Mulligan and a Beercat Special, staggerwing.

The jets and stuff like that kinda leave me cold - but if it has a propeller - I'm on it!

I used to fly next to Bert Rutan at Mile Square R/C park in Fountain Valley before he even had his first kit-composite off the ground. I think his first canard was the Var-Eze -- or something like that.

I also saw that counter-propped Maverick P-51 that was a world record holder for level flight for a while.

A very cute story was when I was on the USS Arlington AGMR-2, and we were returning to Pearl Harbor for R&R from VietNam and we went to General Quarters when our lookouts spotted Bettys and Zeros attacking Hawaii - again!

Nobody told the US Navy that they were reenacting the attack on Pearl Harbor for the movie Tora, Tora, Tora - and we were gonna try to shoot some of them down.



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kahawai chaser
30-09-2010, 08:04 PM
Great pictures - I wish I kept my 1/72 air craft models (think that was the scale), that I used to paint so long ago; The Mustang, Whirlwind, MS 262, etc.

Out of interest what was the A-10 Warthog used for? Pretty mean machine guns/missile launchers. Used in Vietnam? Could destroy a NZ city in a shooting single pass... I'm sure it was in one those Rambo movies.

Also some of the engines are disproportionate to the body - I guess it's for primary thrust? but leaving little maneuverability...

zqwerty
30-09-2010, 08:25 PM
WartHog A-10 is a tank buster, heavy machine guns can destroy any tank from behind.

SurferJoe46
01-10-2010, 02:55 AM
Great pictures - I wish I kept my 1/72 air craft models (think that was the scale), that I used to paint so long ago; The Mustang, Whirlwind, MS 262, etc.

Out of interest what was the A-10 Warthog used for? Pretty mean machine guns/missile launchers. Used in Vietnam? Could destroy a NZ city in a shooting single pass... I'm sure it was in one those Rambo movies.

Also some of the engines are disproportionate to the body - I guess it's for primary thrust? but leaving little maneuverability...

I don't remember the Wart Hog in VietNam - it wasn't something I ever saw there.

A few reasons why the engine nacelles are so large.

The low-level attack and the sand that is in the air in most combat situations warrant the use of intake air baffling to keep the sand out of the turbines
Noise abatement - for stealth. Lots of shrouding helps muffle the engine whine
Oversized engines for high thrust levels to accelerate out of level flight when attacking and the need to pull up becomes necessary.
Fear factor - psychological warfare

Check the surface area of the empennage - it's pretty large and has to only have minimal air flow to get a great amount of control for slow speed maneuvers.

SurferJoe46
01-10-2010, 03:31 AM
This post has caused me a lot of thinking about a very dear friend I had, many years ago now and I believe that he has passed away.

His name was Yale Lasker, and I did some research a bit ago when I was in a mood to do so, and I never really found my friend but did find some slight reference to him and his time in the B17F/G that flew from Molesworth, England in the 303rd, Triangle 'C' Bomber Group. [[303rd Bombardment Groups (Heavy) (303rd) European Theater of Operations]]

Here's the official 303rd website: http://www.303rdbg.com/guest-rmks18.html and I have a post on there from 2003.

.......and some pictures of that plane, both before and after the conversion to a 'G' model with the chin turret:::

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/67/4B870590-F520-47B5-83D7-76F9D60B26FB/HU034119.jpg

http://img.phombo.com/img1/photocombo/3270/cache/Aircraft-647.jpg_military_pics_-_aviation_-_B-17F_Flying_Fortress_Hells_Angels_WW2_military_comb at_aircraft_display.jpg

Here's that painting I mentioned:::

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll106/Dirkpitt289/B-17GFlyingFort.jpg


On 13 May 1943 the 303rd's B-17F "Hell's Angels" became the first 8th Air Force B-17 to complete 25 combat missions. This feat has wrongly been credited to the"Memphis Belle" B-17 including the 1943 and 1990 "Memphis Belle" movies. The "Memphis Belle" B-17 was the first to complete 25 missions and return to the USA. "Hell's Angels" continued to fly combat missions until 13 December 1943, when she completed 48 combat missions it was retired from combat. Shortly thereafter she was flown to the USA, rejoined by members of the Capt Baldwin crew, went on a morale boosting tour of war production plants.

It [[303rd Bombardment Group]] operated from Station 107, Molesworth, Huntingdonshire, England from 12 September 1942 until 11 June 1945. During this time the Group flew an 8th Air Force record 364 combat missions, 10,721 sorties and dropped 26,346 tons of bombs on enemy targets. The 303rd is credited with 664 enemy aircraft destroyed, probably destroyed or damaged. They sustained 1,748 personnel casualties and lost 210 B-17's on combat missions. The 303rd was the first 8th Air Force Bomb Group to complete 25, 50, 75, 200 and 300 combat missions.

prefect
01-10-2010, 08:33 AM
A10 went into service around 1976 think fall of South Vietnam was before that.

Trev
01-10-2010, 08:44 AM
Going back to the B17 the movie Memphis Bell was based on the true story of the last mission in WW2 of this plane. Some one actually took a movie camera on the flight and made a movie of it. I have it on video tape which I recorded off TV many years ago. You can actually get this movie on DVD from The Warehouse for about $10. Search through the WW2 DVDs and you should find it.
:)

SurferJoe46
01-10-2010, 08:58 AM
Going back to the B17 the movie Memphis Bell was based on the true story of the last mission in WW2 of this plane. Some one actually took a movie camera on the flight and made a movie of it. I have it on video tape which I recorded off TV many years ago. You can actually get this movie on DVD from The Warehouse for about $10. Search through the WW2 DVDs and you should find it.
:)

Nice - but I think The Warehouse is totally dead and has been outta business in the US for a while.

Wallick's Music City, Serendipity and Licorice Pizza as well as the Capitol/Virgin Records are all closed too.

Tony
01-10-2010, 09:01 AM
Why does the US have to have all the awesome planesPossibly because they are the richest and most powerful nation in the world?

The Hitcher
01-10-2010, 09:04 AM
A very good uplifting read about a WW2 veteran aviator;

http://thecommunitypaper.com/archive/2010/09_09/index.php

prefect
01-10-2010, 09:12 AM
Christ I almost teared up

WalOne
01-10-2010, 09:29 AM
Brilliant piece of writing.

Safari
01-10-2010, 09:37 AM
Going back to the B17 the movie Memphis Bell was based on the true story of the last mission in WW2 of this plane. Some one actually took a movie camera on the flight and made a movie of it. I have it on video tape which I recorded off TV many years ago. You can actually get this movie on DVD from The Warehouse for about $10. Search through the WW2 DVDs and you should find it.
:)

The original movie taken on the Memphis Belle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1U1TigJdI

Trev
01-10-2010, 09:37 AM
Yes a cool story. Had my eyes watering a bit. Thanks for sharing.
:)

Bozo
01-10-2010, 11:46 AM
Wow, an amazing read.

Time to spend more time reading all those books of mine gathering dust these days on such topics :)