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Cicero
27-09-2010, 02:50 PM
What should a new box cost with up to date kit with 4 gig ram,not a gamer.?

Speedy Gonzales
27-09-2010, 02:54 PM
Depends what mobo , CPU / ram you get

inphinity
27-09-2010, 02:57 PM
can probably get a 3GHz dual core, 4GB DDR3, reasonable mobo, 500GB HDD, case, PSU, DVDRW for $600, maybe $650 if you want something slightly better than onboard video? Less if you go lower spec of course, I think you'd struggle to find anything worthwhile with 4GB RAM for under $450 tho. This is purely the PC, no peripherals, software, etc, and only moderate quality (micro ATX board, el cheapo case etc).

Cicero
27-09-2010, 02:58 PM
Depends what mobo , CPU / ram you get

Reasonably fast of good quality.

inphinity
27-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Reasonably fast of good quality.

I'd probably look at more like $800 then to step it up a little.. maybe an i3 or Phenom II, 4GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, etc.

Cicero
27-09-2010, 03:17 PM
I'd probably look at more like $800 then to step it up a little.. maybe an i3 or Phenom II, 4GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, etc.

That would be with a good box?

Thanks you Speedy and Infin.

Cicero
27-09-2010, 03:28 PM
Updated version of this,perhaps?

Windows 7 Professional (x64) (build 7600)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (New Zealand) No details available
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
2.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
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Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
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wainuitech
27-09-2010, 03:40 PM
Depends on what you want to do with it. higher the Spec's higher the prices.

Quick maths. These prices are from Ascent.

Intel Core i5 661 3.33GHz - $361.00
1TB HDD - $130
Corsair PSU - 550 Watt - $175
Case - Varies on what you want - $65 +
DVD Writer - $60
OS W7 - $175
motherboard - $200+
Graphic Card, Varies - ( bottom end) $90 - Upwards
Memory 4GB $170

Theres $1426 to start with.


Just done a quote this morning, the person started off with a I3-530 $194.00 and we ended up at a I5-661 $361.00 CPU

It really depends on what you want to do, the CPU will be the most expensive part, then the graphic Card, then generally followed by the motherboard.

pctek
27-09-2010, 04:32 PM
http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139234/CATID=139/PlayTech-Home-Desktop-PCs.html

Cicero
27-09-2010, 05:00 PM
http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139234/CATID=139/PlayTech-Home-Desktop-PCs.html

Thanks PC and Wai.

For some reason I had $600 in mind,when in fact I should have $1200 it seems.

I shall now have to emotionally prepare for new #.

Thanks again.:crying

wainuitech
27-09-2010, 06:03 PM
A Few things you have to consider:

1> How much Power, Speed, performance etc do you want - the higher that answer is the Higher the price. Do you want to use Socket 775 (if Intel) which are being slowly phased out and more than likely not going to be available soon - this is in case of failures. These boards are becoming less and less choices to what they used to have, and their prices are lower than the Newer boards.

2>Do you want Quality parts ? Example you can buy a El Cheap PSU or a More expensive good quality one of the same wattage -- Which one would you expect to last longer and not give trouble ?

Heres an example: If I look at one of my suppliers sites:

Black mid tower ATX case with 320W PSU (Max power), ext:5.25"x4 / 3.5"x1, int: 3.5" x5, front audio and USB

My buy price -- lets say I would get change from $45.00 ;)

The case is a Basic case, but is fine for day to day usage BUT how good do you think the 320W PSU actually is ?

Lets say It wouldn't be staying in the PC, a better Corsair will be installed.

wainuitech
27-09-2010, 06:27 PM
Oh Bummer, Ran out of time :sleep.

Think carefully about what you actually want to do.

The one I quoted for today and got signed off, is very similar to Bottom one here at Playtech (http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139234/CATID=54/PlayTech-Gaming-Desktop-PCs.html) -- Slightly different components and Case (but cheaper overall price as well). I told the guy he didn't need that much grunt to do what he wanted, he does the odd bit of light gaming, but that's what he wanted, I had a list of parts, and prices, chopped and changes components and he selected what he wanted.

Cicero
28-09-2010, 07:20 AM
Oh Bummer, Ran out of time :sleep.

Think carefully about what you actually want to do.

The one I quoted for today and got signed off, is very similar to Bottom one here at Playtech (http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139234/CATID=54/PlayTech-Gaming-Desktop-PCs.html) -- Slightly different components and Case (but cheaper overall price as well). I told the guy he didn't need that much grunt to do what he wanted, he does the odd bit of light gaming, but that's what he wanted, I had a list of parts, and prices, chopped and changes components and he selected what he wanted.

Thanks Wai,I get the message.

Will take heed of your words when I come to get new box.