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Pato
20-09-2010, 05:00 PM
I had hoped to get an Asus GTX 470 Graphics card in my new computer, but am advised that only card available is an MSI card.
Are these cards ok, or should I wait for some weeks for an Asus card.?
Any comments or advice much appreciated. Thanks.

Deimos
20-09-2010, 05:05 PM
Likelyhood of MSI going to go out of business in the next few months? probably 0%, that is all you really need to worry about, MSI products are fairly solid.

DeSade
20-09-2010, 05:07 PM
I would wait for the ASUS.
But I would also drop to a 460 as they are generally better than the 470.
The 460 hits the sweet-spot between price and performance for this card range, 480 is very nice but the 470 is not worth it.

Pato
20-09-2010, 05:14 PM
I would wait for the ASUS.
But I would also drop to a 460 as they are generally better than the 470.
The 460 hits the sweet-spot between price and performance for this card range, 480 is very nice but the 470 is not worth it.Thanks for the advice. Why do you suggest that the 460 is better than the 470. I am not very savvy about graphic cards so your help appreciated.

SolMiester
20-09-2010, 05:22 PM
Thanks for the advice. Why do you suggest that the 460 is better than the 470. I am not very savvy about graphic cards so your help appreciated.

460 is a different GPU than 470, runs cooler and quieter, better overclocking headroom.
Thats not to say the 470 isnt a great GPU. It needs the fan profile checked though as it spins up loud to cool a hot GPU if the graphic card has poor air-flow around it...what is the resolution of your monitor, you may not need such a powerful card!

DeSade
20-09-2010, 05:24 PM
Before I brought my 480's I did a LOT of research into it and all the reviews I read said three things.


The 480 was top notch if you were willing to spend the cash for it
The 460 is the best of the range for price per performance
THe 470 is not worth the cost compared to the 460 and not worth the performance compared to the 480

Halwende
20-09-2010, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the advice. Why do you suggest that the 460 is better than the 470. I am not very savvy about graphic cards so your help appreciated.

Looking at benchmark values for those two cards (2,300 vs 2,900 for arguments sake, from here: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php) the 470 is roughly 20% faster than the 460

However, when you look at price ($280 for the 460 vs $566 for the 470) that's an increase of roughly 50%

So would you pay 50% more for 20% extra speed? I'd agree with the previous post, the 460 is much better value

DeSade
20-09-2010, 05:33 PM
And for the same cost as a 470 more or less you can get two 460's in SLI that shits all over the 470 performance wise.

Pato
20-09-2010, 05:50 PM
460 is a different GPU than 470, runs cooler and quieter, better overclocking headroom.
Thats not to say the 470 isnt a great GPU. It needs the fan profile checked though as it spins up loud to cool a hot GPU if the graphic card has poor air-flow around it...what is the resolution of your monitor, you may not need such a powerful card!Monitor resolution is 1680 x 1050.

Pato
20-09-2010, 05:57 PM
Greatly appreciate all your comments. I will go with the GTX 460.
As DeSade says I could get two 460's. Cheers.

pctek
20-09-2010, 06:34 PM
ASUS or Gigabyte.

Pato
20-09-2010, 06:52 PM
ASUS or Gigabyte.Thanks, Not MSI then?
What about eVGA?

DeSade
21-09-2010, 09:29 AM
eVGA is ok but still ASUS or Gigabyte.
I use Gigatyte myself.

SolMiester
21-09-2010, 09:45 AM
Nothing wrong with MSI....!

autechre
21-09-2010, 09:51 AM
Get the 1GB version, not the 768MB one. It is slightly faster.

I have the Gigabyte GTX460 and it's a pretty sweet card.

inphinity
21-09-2010, 10:34 AM
However, when you look at price ($280 for the 460 vs $566 for the 470) that's an increase of roughly 50%

So would you pay 50% more for 20% extra speed? I'd agree with the previous post, the 460 is much better value

$280 to $566 is a 100% increase in price.

Where are you getting, retail, a decent-branded GTX460 1GB for $280?? I got some new graphics cards recently and couldn't find even a rubbish brand, 768MB 460 for under $300.

I'd expect to pay $360 for a decent branded, reference-spec 460 1GB, or about $430 for a decent branded, OC-spec 460 1GB.

I'd still very much agree though - unless money is no object, the 460 1GB is the choice from the nvidia stable atm. Miles ahead on price/performance. Unless you're getting 2x 480s im not sure why you'd get anything but the 460 tbh (or 2 in SLI ;))

Went with the Asus GTX460 TOP 1GB in the end. Incredible card, and at 1920x1080 getting nigh-on identical performance to the 1.2GB 470 in our other box.

Asus, Gigabyte, or eVGA would be the brands to go for imo.

Pato
21-09-2010, 11:39 AM
Thanks for the further info guys. A big thanks for all your help. I would be lost without this forum. Cheers.