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15-09-2010, 05:58 AM
I paid for this, so I can post it as it is:

UPDATE: New Drug-Resistant Superbugs Found in 3 States

Published September 14, 2010 ~ FoxNews.com

BOSTON An infectious-disease nightmare is unfolding: Bacteria that have been made resistant to nearly all antibiotics by an alarming new gene have sickened people in three states and are popping up all over the world, health officials reported Monday.

The U.S. cases and two others in Canada all involve people who had recently received medical care in India, where the problem is widespread. A British medical journal revealed the risk last month in an article describing dozens of cases in Britain in people who had gone to India for medical procedures.

How many deaths the gene may have caused is unknown; there is no central tracking of such cases. So far, the gene has mostly been found in bacteria that cause gut or urinary infections.
Scientists have long feared this a very adaptable gene that hitches onto many types of common germs and confers broad drug resistance, creating dangerous "superbugs."

"It's a great concern," because drug resistance has been rising and few new antibiotics are in development, said Dr. M. Lindsay Grayson, director of infectious diseases at the University of Melbourne in Australia. "It's just a matter of time" until the gene spreads more widely person-to-person, he said.

Grayson heads an American Society for Microbiology conference in Boston, which was buzzing with reports of the gene, called NDM-1 and named for New Delhi.

The U.S. cases occurred this year in people from California, Massachusetts and Illinois, said Brandi Limbago, a lab chief at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (US-CDC/P). Three types of bacteria were involved, and three different mechanisms let the gene become part of them.

"We want physicians to look for it," especially in patients who have traveled recently to India or Pakistan, she said.

What can people do?

Don't add to the drug resistance problem, experts say. Don't pressure your doctors for antibiotics if they say they aren't needed, use the ones you are given properly, and try to avoid infections by washing your hands.

The gene is carried by bacteria that can spread hand-to-mouth, which makes good hygiene very important.

It's also why health officials are so concerned about where the threat is coming from, said Dr. Patrice Nordmann, a microbiology professor at South-Paris Medical School. India is an overpopulated country that overuses antibiotics and has widespread diarrheal disease and many people without clean water.

"The ingredients are there" for widespread transmission, he said. "It's going to spread by plane all over the world."

The U.S. patients were not related. The California woman needed hospital care after being in a car accident in India. The Illinois man had pre-existing medical problems and a urinary catheter, and is thought to have contracted an infection with the gene while traveling in India. The case from Massachusetts involved a woman from India who had surgery and chemotherapy for cancer there and then traveled to the U.S.

Lab tests showed their germs were not killed by the types of drugs normally used to treat drug-resistant infections, including "the last-resort class of antibiotics that physicians go to," Limbago said.

She did not know how the three patients were treated, but all survived.

Doctors have tried treating some of these cases with combinations of antibiotics, hoping that will be more effective than individual ones are. Some have resorted to using polymyxins antibiotics used in the 1950s and '60s that were unpopular because they can harm the kidneys.

The two Canadian cases were treated with a combination of antibiotics, said Dr. Johann Pitout of the University of Calgary in Alberta, Canada. One case was in Alberta, the other in British Columbia.

Both patients had medical emergencies while traveling in India. They developed urinary infections that were discovered to have the resistance gene once they returned home to Canada, Pitout said.

The CDC advises any hospitals that find such cases to put the patient in medical isolation, check the patient's close contacts for possible infection, and look for more infections in the hospital.
Any case "should raise an alarm," Limbago said.

.............just thought you'd like to know.

15-09-2010, 07:48 AM
Thanks for the info.

15-09-2010, 08:57 AM
The Commonwealth Games are being held in India next month and some country's are considering pulling out because of this.

15-09-2010, 09:07 AM
Always on the books for this to happen .... we already have MSRA - Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus which usually goes around hospitals. Now they ask you to sign a form declaring you haven't been in hospital for X number of weeks before admitting you for any surgical procedures.

Necrotising fasciitis - flesh-eating disease or Flesh-eating bacteria syndrome ... again, resistant to most antibiotics.

Friends of ours, though kids going to the same Kindergarten, lost their son when he was about 10 to Necrotising Fasciitis ... not very pleasant as he had both legs amputated to try and save his life before succumbing to the "super bug)

Always been a problem with Doctors over-prescribing antibiotics - but people do expect something when they pay so much to go to see their GP. (GP = MD in downside up land)

15-09-2010, 11:28 AM
We need cockroaches.

Specifically, their brain.

15-09-2010, 11:28 AM
The Commonwealth Games are being held in India next month and some country's are considering pulling out because of this.
That would be their secondary excuse if they choose to do so.

15-09-2010, 11:34 AM

Remember this? :D

15-09-2010, 12:38 PM
Oh **** bird flu we're all going to die. NVM.
Oh **** SARS we're all going to die. NVM.
Oh **** swine flu we're all going to die. NVM.
Oh **** NDM -1 we're all going to die. ?

Drug resistant infections are hardly new. They're present where the drug is present, and they die out 'in the wild' since when the drug is not present normal bacteria out-compete them.

A few at risk people will die, it'll die down, then the next big thing will come along.

Or keep reading fox news and living your life in fear.

15-09-2010, 12:49 PM
Ive seen "The Stand"

15-09-2010, 12:52 PM


Must be a scare approved by the Republicans.

15-09-2010, 03:30 PM
Ok you ignored the body of my post. Now a quick personal attack and you'll be almost there.

15-09-2010, 04:42 PM
Ok you ignored the body of my post. Now a quick personal attack and you'll be almost there.

Let me try!

Just what I expected - isolationist denial.

You are still in the mainstream for importation of all sorts of devastation and yet you refuse to at least acknowledge that this exists? Fail.

Stiff upper, gov! Good on ya!

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15-09-2010, 05:14 PM
Bad news sells heap big, danger danger Will Robinson.


15-09-2010, 05:18 PM
This just in, people fall ill and die, some claim this has been going on for quite some time.

Update-there has never been a 100 percent cure for anything......ever