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Happy Harry
14-08-2010, 03:01 PM
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

By an unknown writer

Winston001
14-08-2010, 10:23 PM
Silly shallow stuff Harry.

So-called political correctness is often a sneering description of what is actually courtesy and politeness.

Called anyone a nigger lately?

Metla
14-08-2010, 10:26 PM
Called anyone a nigger lately?


Define lately.....

goodiesguy
14-08-2010, 10:31 PM
Political Correctness has ruined this world. we used to be able to say Nigger on tv (spike milligan) and make good comedy programs.

Political Correctness has killed Comedy :(


i still use the word nigger when necessary

Happy Harry
14-08-2010, 10:55 PM
Silly shallow stuff Harry.

So-called political correctness is often a sneering description of what is actually courtesy and politeness.

Called anyone a nigger lately?

Sorry Winston
I bow to your specialist subject. You have taken the politically correct path.
The point "is" humour, and the seriousnous that is now placed on subjects that should not be taken seriously.
All opinions and offence taken are subjective. What you may find offesive, I may find amusing and vice versa.
I like to think I can laugh with all and most of all laugh at myself.

Keep Smiling

goodiesguy
14-08-2010, 11:07 PM
i find some of the most horrible things funny. i laughed at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUygn7BZis , to me, it is hilarious, the way it looks is so funny. it would work really well on a comedy program

Winston001
15-08-2010, 12:33 AM
Sorry Winston
I bow to your specialist subject. You have taken the politically correct path.
The point "is" humour, and the seriousnous that is now placed on subjects that should not be taken seriously.
All opinions and offence taken are subjective. What you may find offesive, I may find amusing and vice versa.
I like to think I can laugh with all and most of all laugh at myself.

Keep Smiling

Cheers. :D

I abhor some of the over-sensitive reactions we hear of and which is called political correctness. Often this does arise from humour and there is an over-reaction by a few.

However I do believe in decency and consideration for others. If a joke or a word is likely to offend someone, why use it?

Of course political correctness is also tossed about in reference to parenting and physical discipline of children. I can't see why raising children should be political but apparently it is in some minds.

Cicero
15-08-2010, 01:00 AM
However I do believe in decency and consideration for others. If a joke or a word is likely to offend someone, why use it?

Because the words spoken were meant as humour,and those that walk amongst us without a sense of humour ,should not be pandered to.

kenj
15-08-2010, 08:21 AM
i find some of the most horrible things funny. i laughed at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUygn7BZis , to me, it is hilarious, the way it looks is so funny. it would work really well on a comedy program

You are sick!

Ken

wotz
15-08-2010, 08:47 AM
Interesting. PC often defines stupid, pointless, meddling with the way things are, such as the carry on which, presumably, gave rise to the following


Resident of sunny Nhapier - in sunny Whawkes Bay Ken

Sorry Ken.

It includes the widespread acceptance by the authorities of issues pushed by the self interested minority, in order to not offend them. It has to have a name, so PC it is.

I agree, things like nigger are extremely offensive to many people, but far too many people in this country are far too sensitive about unimportant things. As soon as the race card gets played in this country, the authorities fall over themselves to pander to the minority. Get over it people (not aimed at anyone on the boasrd in particular), and lets move on as a counrty together.

My 2 cents, including generalisations.

Cicero
15-08-2010, 09:26 AM
Interesting. PC often defines stupid, pointless, meddling with the way things are, such as the carry on which, presumably, gave rise to the following



Sorry Ken.

It includes the widespread acceptance by the authorities of issues pushed by the self interested minority, in order to not offend them. It has to have a name, so PC it is.

I agree, things like nigger are extremely offensive to many people, but far too many people in this country are far too sensitive about unimportant things. As soon as the race card gets played in this country, the authorities fall over themselves to pander to the minority. Get over it people (not aimed at anyone on the boasrd in particular), and lets move on as a counrty together.

My 2 cents, including generalisations.

You might mention that to the maori party chap that keeps bad mouthing euro types.

angry
15-08-2010, 09:34 AM
You might mention that to the maori party chap that keeps bad mouthing euro types.

but there you have the point, he's Maori, part of the apartite priviliged minority.

so unlike them, we have to conform to all laws, and bow to all things pc.

:)

Cicero
15-08-2010, 09:38 AM
but there you have the point, he's Maori, part of the apartite priviliged minority.

so unlike them, we have to conform to all laws, and bow to all things pc.

:)

I see........

Winny will like that.

Metla
15-08-2010, 11:09 AM
Do we all rememeber how not so long ago jokes that mentioned Maori were censored while everything aimed at all other targets (Irish, blonds, men, Poms,yanks,Aussies etc etc etc) were given free reign.

The way I see it, unless the "word" is deliberately used to cause offense then any interference or condemnation is of a political nature,and hence we get political correctness, It may offend someone somewhere so its deemed unacceptable by some mystery group of people keeping us all safe from the prospect of being offended,because when a person gets offended....wait,nothing happens,people get offended all the time over whatever they choose to and everything fine, except they want to remove from common usage everything they don't like.

Pathetic and weak.

Zippity
15-08-2010, 11:30 AM
I've used that quote in my signature panel for a couple of weeks now. Guess I should drop it :(

prefect
15-08-2010, 11:32 AM
Interesting. PC often defines stupid, pointless, meddling with the way things are, such as the carry on which, presumably, gave rise to the following



Sorry Ken.

It includes the widespread acceptance by the authorities of issues pushed by the self interested minority, in order to not offend them. It has to have a name, so PC it is.

I agree, things like nigger are extremely offensive to many people, but far too many people in this country are far too sensitive about unimportant things. As soon as the race card gets played in this country, the authorities fall over themselves to pander to the minority. Get over it people (not aimed at anyone on the boasrd in particular), and lets move on as a counrty together.

My 2 cents, including generalisations.

I f the n word is so offensive why do no whites use it so much when talking about each other even maoris in NZ?

Cicero
15-08-2010, 11:34 AM
I f the n word is so offensive why do no whites use it so much when talking about each other even maoris in NZ?

As someone has said,they are different from us,due to the do gooders ruling.

Happy Harry
15-08-2010, 12:02 PM
I've used that quote in my signature panel for a couple of weeks now. Guess I should drop it :(

Oh Dear
Sorry to have spoilt your signature Zippity.
I saw this several weeks ago in some community mag I was reading while waiting for my Fish & Chips to cook.
I wrote it down and thought,"Who is learned enough to appreciate the quote"
I picked the F1 team as there is such a diversity of veiws and there are only a few who "are" politically correct.

Cheers
HH

KenESmith
15-08-2010, 12:33 PM
The problem with political corectness is that it has been carried too far, from speech that is offensive, to speech that MAY GIVE OFFENCE ( In the opinion of the self elected thought police.)

One cannot make a statement that is factual and 100% true, because it shows a particular class or group of citizens in the wrong light-
For example - Group X make up less than 10% of the national population but are over 50% of the prison population.
The statement is true but it shows group X up in way that could influence other citizens against group X. In Europe, Islamic Jihadist terrorists in some media are being simply identified as Asian Terrorists.

Another true example that is appalling is:
The Leeds Education Authority, in Yorkshitre, have prohibited the teaching or relating of the nativity story in their schools as some Muslims find it offensive. ( and Britain is supposedly a christian country with a state estabished church - C of E.)

Similar anecdotal instances of discouraging people from wishing a Merry Christmas, as this only applies as a christian greeting. Examples some UK local authority Christmas Cards.

martynz
15-08-2010, 01:17 PM
The problem with political corectness is that it has been carried too far, from speech that is offensive, to speech that MAY GIVE OFFENCE ( In the opinion of the self elected thought police.)

One cannot make a statement that is factual and 100% true, because it shows a particular class or group of citizens in the wrong light-
For example - Group X make up less than 10% of the national population but are over 50% of the prison population.
The statement is true but it shows group X up in way that could influence other citizens against group X. In Europe, Islamic Jihadist terrorists in some media are being simply identified as Asian Terrorists.

Another true example that is appalling is:
The Leeds Education Authority, in Yorkshitre, have prohibited the teaching or relating of the nativity story in their schools as some Muslims find it offensive. ( and Britain is supposedly a christian country with a state estabished church - C of E.)

Similar anecdotal instances of discouraging people from wishing a Merry Christmas, as this only applies as a christian greeting. Examples some UK local authority Christmas Cards.

Can you give us a link to the Leeds Education Authority story?
Or is it a (deliberately) garbled version of this
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/Parents-warned-over-filming-school.226672.jp

prefect
15-08-2010, 01:31 PM
What annoyed me a bit was the muslims complaining about bus shelter ads showing chicks near their mosque in St Lukes.
The ads were tame no nipples or clacker showing, just nubile young chicks not over dressed no worse than a KMart underware junkmail.

Cicero
15-08-2010, 01:34 PM
Another true example that is appalling is:
The Leeds Education Authority, in Yorkshitre, have prohibited the teaching or relating of the nativity story in their schools as some Muslims find it offensive. ( and Britain is supposedly a christian country with a state estabished church - C of E.)

Similar anecdotal instances of discouraging people from wishing a Merry Christmas, as this only applies as a christian greeting. Examples some UK local authority Christmas Cards.

And one of the worst is Rowan Williams,a more mamby pamby get I have yet to come across.

Cicero
15-08-2010, 01:38 PM
What annoyed me a bit was the Muslims complaining about bus shelter ads showing chicks near their mosque in St Luke's.
The ads were tame no nipples or clacker showing, just nubile young chicks not over dressed no worse than a KM art underware junkmail.

To be fair Pre,they should be allowed to go back to their homeland.

Allah willing of course.

KenESmith
15-08-2010, 02:58 PM
MartynNZ -
The Leeds education Authority prohibition ruling was in a Directive to Primary School Principals. I was shown it by a friend who was a very disgusted headmaster. It was over 6 years ago.

They would not be so silly as to publish it in the local press.

kenj
15-08-2010, 03:50 PM
Interesting. PC often defines stupid, pointless, meddling with the way things are, such as the carry on which, presumably, gave rise to the following



Sorry Ken.

It includes the widespread acceptance by the authorities of issues pushed by the self interested minority, in order to not offend them. It has to have a name, so PC it is.

I agree, things like nigger are extremely offensive to many people, but far too many people in this country are far too sensitive about unimportant things. As soon as the race card gets played in this country, the authorities fall over themselves to pander to the minority. Get over it people (not aimed at anyone on the boasrd in particular), and lets move on as a counrty together.

My 2 cents, including generalisations.


I am pretty non PC myself and enjoy taking the piss out of the PC Brigade.

However, the sickness I was commenting on was Goodiesguy finding humour in what was happening in his link to a video clip, where a person was about to die in the 2004 tsunami. (My post #9)

I find it offensive that someone could find humour in someone who had probably no chance of surviving, along with approx 230,000 others.

I must assume he posted without giving much thought to the matter.

Ken :horrified

goodiesguy
15-08-2010, 04:02 PM
You are sick!

Ken

I am not sick. people need to learn to laugh at life's disasters. there is nothing we can do about them. This is a fine example of political correctness and how it ruins this world. spread some happy, look at the bright side of these disasters.

It was in asia, it didn't happen to us. be happy

kenj
15-08-2010, 04:31 PM
I am not sick. people need to learn to laugh at life's disasters. there is nothing we can do about them. This is a fine example of political correctness and how it ruins this world. spread some happy, look at the bright side of these disasters.

It was in asia, it didn't happen to us. be happy

Idiot!!

Ken

goodiesguy
15-08-2010, 04:39 PM
Idiot!!

Ken

Far from it acually

:groan:

mikebartnz
15-08-2010, 05:22 PM
Silly shallow stuff Harry.

So-called political correctness is often a sneering description of what is actually courtesy and politeness.

Called anyone a nigger lately?
Absolute rubbish otherwise it would not be called political correctness.

martynz
15-08-2010, 05:24 PM
MartynNZ -
The Leeds education Authority prohibition ruling was in a Directive to Primary School Principals. I was shown it by a friend who was a very disgusted headmaster. It was over 6 years ago.

They would not be so silly as to publish it in the local press.

And the local/national press wouldn't find out.
Frankly either you or your "friend" are telling porkies.

Cicero
15-08-2010, 05:26 PM
Absolute rubbish otherwise it would not be called political correctness.

Could you clarify that Mikey?

ubergeek85
15-08-2010, 11:25 PM
One cannot make a statement that is factual and 100% true, because it shows a particular class or group of citizens in the wrong light-
For example - Group X make up less than 10% of the national population but are over 50% of the prison population.
The statement is true but it shows group X up in way that could influence other citizens against group X.

Ahh, that's not proof that group X are more criminally-inclined. It's "Over-representation". Also, it shows that the judicial system is failing group X. It has nothing to do with group X actually going out there, breaking into homes, cars, murdering, etc.

I call a spade a spade.

mikebartnz
15-08-2010, 11:52 PM
Ahh, that's not proof that group X are more criminally-inclined. It's "Over-representation". Also, it shows that the judicial system is failing group X. It has nothing to do with group X actually going out there, breaking into homes, cars, murdering, etc.

I call a spade a spade.
and you are being politically correct.

Winston001
16-08-2010, 12:52 AM
One cannot make a statement that is factual and 100% true, because it shows a particular class or group of citizens in the wrong light-
For example - Group X make up less than 10% of the national population but are over 50% of the prison population.
The statement is true but it shows group X up in way that could influence other citizens against group X.

I'm not sure why you have that impression Ken. Successive governments and the Maori Party have regularly commented on the disproportionate number of Maori in our prisons. It's a completely open fact and not hidden.

Here are a few definitions of PC -



avoidance of expressions or actions that can be perceived to exclude or marginalize or insult people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn (http://www.google.co.nz/url?ei=htNnTInvDoT2tgP-vqSiDQ&sig2=ClV8SVBOXJOrWqz0CU8xdQ&q=http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn%3Fs%3Dpolitical+correctness&sa=X&ved=0CAgQpAMoAA&usg=AFQjCNG-fQDOSdSoaUXlyRwxPflyHmHoEw)


Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term which denotes language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social and institutional offense in occupational, gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, handicap ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness (http://www.google.co.nz/url?ei=htNnTInvDoT2tgP-vqSiDQ&sig2=8ae1iU1AgAYzRZiSXyIWXw&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness&sa=X&ved=0CAkQpAMoAQ&usg=AFQjCNEqeaA5ZCEU6my8pok2zuU7EqykRw)


The concept that one has to shape their statements (if not their opinions) according to a certain political dogma, i.e. to be politically correct; The result or product of being politically correct
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/political_correctness (http://www.google.co.nz/url?ei=htNnTInvDoT2tgP-vqSiDQ&sig2=ShUUuLvASravMMKnDHwjig&q=http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/political_correctness&sa=X&ved=0CAoQpAMoAg&usg=AFQjCNGWLFCavMoWTZpeyj-3P2wFLuUZ_w)


A trend that wants to make everything fair, equal and just to all by suppressing thought, speech and practice in order to achieve that goal.
www.information-entertainment.com/Politics/polterms.html (http://www.google.co.nz/url?ei=htNnTInvDoT2tgP-vqSiDQ&sig2=SE1QjQLFu82VOXruRnr7vw&q=http://www.information-entertainment.com/Politics/polterms.html&sa=X&ved=0CAsQpAMoAw&usg=AFQjCNF5pHsSNr0HSbPDv3bmrQg4qCM20g)


Suppressing the expression of certain attitudes and the use of certain terms in the belief that they are too offensive or controversial.
www.slp.duq.edu/rentschler/ETHIC/Vocabulary.htm (http://www.google.co.nz/url?ei=htNnTInvDoT2tgP-vqSiDQ&sig2=OE3er3_ZlR7Qo5v_Uu5A0g&q=http://www.slp.duq.edu/rentschler/ETHIC/Vocabulary.htm&sa=X&ved=0CAwQpAMoBA&usg=AFQjCNHFVjEwdV1e0D6Ke0CIhvwU0er0Iw)



Now - can anyone tell me why consideration and sensitivity to others is wrong??

pctek
16-08-2010, 07:32 AM
I think whether or not you are being offensive is easy to tell. All depends on the conversation - if it's a joke and it involves a particular country or race then it's just a joke - like the one last week about the Irish guys and the mooses.

But if you are insulting someone then that's what PC was designed to try and stop.

B.M.
16-08-2010, 08:47 AM
Today we couldnít make any Hopalong Cassidy films for fear of causing offence. :groan:

Cicero
16-08-2010, 09:56 AM
Today we couldnít make any Hopalong Cassidy films for fear of causing offence. :groan:

And there I was thinking you were about 25.