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Cicero
07-08-2010, 04:03 PM
Where to buy Windows 7 and which one do I need.

I am a simple user,no gaming or office work in particular.

Speedy Gonzales
07-08-2010, 04:04 PM
Do you want XP mode??

Cicero
07-08-2010, 04:06 PM
Do you want XP mode??

As I have never heard of that,it is hard to answer!

PCT Joe
07-08-2010, 04:10 PM
As I have never heard of that,it is hard to answer!

XP mode is the ability to emulate a windows XP systems for programs that have compatibility issues with windows 7, you can also emulate windows vista with this function, although I see how useful with would be I have not used it much.

I recommend Windows 7 Home premium, its roughly $190.00 at playtech.co.nz

Speedy Gonzales
07-08-2010, 04:11 PM
Well its a later version of virtual PC... It lets you use programs that may not work in Windows 7. Or you can use The XP mode option to test ISO's (if you make any that is, that are bootable). Only thing you cant test anything thats x64 with it

Cicero
07-08-2010, 04:14 PM
Well its a later version of virtual PC... It lets you use programs that may not work in Windows 7. Or you can use The XP mode option to test ISO's (if you make any that is, that are bootable). Only thing you cant test anything thats x64 with it

So what do I ask for,just the latest or what,if I want the XP facility..

Thanks PC and Speedy.

Speedy Gonzales
07-08-2010, 04:17 PM
Well if you want XP mode, you'll have to get Pro, Ultimate, or Enterprise. The other versions don't support it.

PCT Joe
07-08-2010, 04:29 PM
In that case I'd recommend Ultimate, however keeping in mind that you may have restrictions I'd in that case recommend Professional. playtech only has a 64bit Ultimate, while it has 32 and 64bit Professional. The pricing is the same for both versions so ill just link you to the 64 bit pages.

Ultimate: http://playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=113/ID=6862/SID=1051025654/productdetails.html
Price: $339.00 incl P&H

Professional: http://playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=113/ID=6861/SID=1051025654/productdetails.html
Price: $249.00 incl. P&H

Edit: you can probably ask them for a 32bit Ultimate, they'll have one lying around, but for future proofing I'd stick with 64bit

Cicero
07-08-2010, 04:51 PM
In that case I'd recommend Ultimate, however keeping in mind that you may have restrictions I'd in that case recommend Professional. playtech only has a 64bit Ultimate, while it has 32 and 64bit Professional. The pricing is the same for both versions so ill just link you to the 64 bit pages.

Ultimate: http://playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=113/ID=6862/SID=1051025654/productdetails.html
Price: $339.00 incl P&H

Professional: http://playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=113/ID=6861/SID=1051025654/productdetails.html
Price: $249.00 incl. P&H

Edit: you can probably ask them for a 32bit Ultimate, they'll have one lying around, but for future proofing I'd stick with 64bit

Thanks again PCT,ordered the pro model.

Now I have to remember how to install and remove old system(Vista)

Used to be doining it every 5 mins in the win 98 period.

pctek
07-08-2010, 05:03 PM
I wouldn't bother with XP Mode - I found it failed miserably with the few things I wanted it for.

BBCmicro
07-08-2010, 05:09 PM
I wouldn't bother with XP Mode - I found it failed miserably with the few things I wanted it for.

Exactly what I found

Snorkbox
07-08-2010, 05:09 PM
Cicero you could always dual boot your current operating system along with Win 7 so no need for XP mode.

Chilling_Silence
07-08-2010, 05:26 PM
In that case I'd recommend Ultimate, however keeping in mind that you may have restrictions I'd in that case recommend Professional.

That doesn't make sense ?

Also, aside from the bragging rights, I can't think of any decent reason aside from bragging rights (and compensation for a lack of manhood) why almost anybody who gets Pro would want Ultimate, unless they're a specialist enthusiast (In which case they would be educated enough not to need to ask the question):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

plod
07-08-2010, 05:37 PM
That doesn't make sense ?

Also, aside from the bragging rights, I can't think of any decent reason aside from bragging rights (and compensation for a lack of manhood) why almost anybody who gets Pro would want Ultimate, unless they're a specialist enthusiast (In which case they would be educated enough not to need to ask the question):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions
Interesting wiki regarding cpu support, maximum 2? Do their count C2D as one core, quad core as two?

ok, with more reading I answered my own question

somebody
07-08-2010, 05:40 PM
Interesting wiki regarding cpu support, maximum 2? Do their count C2D as one core, quad core as two?

ok, with more reading I answered my own question

They count sockets - so one physical CPU may have several cores, but they count it as one.

gary67
07-08-2010, 06:00 PM
I went for Home pre 64bit OEM didn't need the fancy packaging, have yet to find a reason to need XP mode, just as well since I don't have it although there is a workaround for getting it on Home pre

Cicero
07-08-2010, 06:03 PM
Cicero you could always dual boot your current operating system along with Win 7 so no need for XP mode.

Please note,I have oredered Pro,so further advice will only leave me wondering why I chose pro.

I will have to make more furiture to make up diff.

PCT Joe
07-08-2010, 06:06 PM
That doesn't make sense ?

Also, aside from the bragging rights, I can't think of any decent reason aside from bragging rights (and compensation for a lack of manhood) why almost anybody who gets Pro would want Ultimate, unless they're a specialist enthusiast (In which case they would be educated enough not to need to ask the question):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

I haven't used Professional, Don't let that be mistaken, that comment was my opinion, which on occasion is wrong. I just know from my experience that ultimate does everything I want :)

nmercer
07-08-2010, 06:37 PM
Exactly what I found

could you elaborate?

I've found XP Mode an excellent solution for the odd small business person who had an (older) application that they needed to work but didn't work on Windows 7

Cheers
Nathan

Cicero
07-08-2010, 06:47 PM
could you elaborate?


odd small business person

Nathan

How odd are you and what height are you?;)

somebody
07-08-2010, 07:08 PM
could you elaborate?

I've found XP Mode an excellent solution for the odd small business person who had an (older) application that they needed to work but didn't work on Windows 7

Cheers
Nathan

We've found it useful not so much for compatibility reasons, but so we can sandbox annoying VPN or similar applications which are required to access certain clients' networks. Some of these are programs mess with your network settings to isolate your PC from your local network, which makes it impossible to use your email client, browse documentation etc. By using XP Mode, we can run the VPN client (plus tools like RDP, Citrix and similar to access things on the client network) while still being able to do normal things on the host machine.

Alex B
07-08-2010, 07:29 PM
I haven't used Professional, Don't let that be mistaken, that comment was my opinion, which on occasion is wrong. I just know from my experience that ultimate does everything I want :)

You get bitlocker and multi language support going ultimate over pro....yay

Speedy Gonzales
07-08-2010, 08:17 PM
Altho who uses bitlocker anyway.

I found on this, if I dual-boot with Vista, it doesn't / wont create the 100 mb partition.

It'll only create it, if you install Win7 by itself. And on some systems, if it creates the partition, the system wont boot (it'll hang after the post screen), after the first reboot (when you install Win7).

Then you've got no choice BUT to make the partitions bigger, so it cant create the 100 mb partition. That's the only way Win7 will install at all.

Another annoying thing Win7 has, is if you create partitions during the install, (on here anyway), 150 GB remained after Win7 had been installed.

And I couldnt fomat it in disk management (unless I made it dynamic). But then the only bootable partition would be C (I could only use 250 GB of a 1 TB hdd for Os's). So, the only way you can partition is after Win7 has been installed

BBCmicro
07-08-2010, 08:59 PM
could you elaborate?
[why I didn't find XPmode any use]

I couldn't get the video conversion program SUPER to go in XPmode (the reason could be 'me')

I don't like the new version of Zscreen (or the longwinded Win7 screen capture facility) so tried the old version I had been using in XP. Couldn't get it to work, even in Win7 XPmode.

There was also a problem with drives visible in Explorer when using XPmode.

But the main reason XPmode is not useful is that Win7 is too good at running XP86 stuff:) I didn't think Audacity, for example, or Adobe Premiere Pro2, or Photoshop6, would work so well on W7Pro64. (These progs don't work perfectly but they're OK for me)

Chilling_Silence
07-08-2010, 09:09 PM
You get bitlocker and multi language support going ultimate over pro....yay

My thoughts exactly :yuck:

angry
08-08-2010, 01:10 AM
I wouldn't bother with XP Mode - I found it failed miserably with the few things I wanted it for.

such as?????????

angry
08-08-2010, 01:13 AM
How odd are you and what height are you?;)

+ 10 points 4 that one.

:)

Cicero
08-08-2010, 05:47 AM
+ 10 points 4 that one.

:)

I was just checking ,so that we could sympathise.:o