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powerover
17-07-2010, 08:24 AM
Hi there guys,

I sort of wanted an ebook reader so i jump on TM and searched for it, came up with this:

*NEW* 7" Android Touchpad Netbook Wi-Fi DDR2 :303663461

what do you guys think of that?

with a battery life of only 2-3 hours??? do you think it will be able to play videos?? any faults that you can pick??

I also came across some black and white screen ebook readers and surprisingly they cost like $350-$400!!! why so much???

I started this thread so I can sort of heard what you guys think, so anything towards this topic is greatly appreciated :D

cheers

pctek
17-07-2010, 09:17 AM
Here:
http://lobelet.livejournal.com/

Driftwood
17-07-2010, 09:26 AM
I am using one of those very devices to answer this post.
Eken M001.
Bought it mainly to use as a eBook Reader.
Taking a while to learn how to drive it, but have pretty much got it sorted now.
You should be able to pick one up for about the same price as the Kobo eReader, which makes them resonable buying when you concider the extra functions they have.

Nomad
17-07-2010, 09:40 AM
without getting technical about it. it is a apple copycat isn't it? :D

KarameaDave
17-07-2010, 10:24 AM
Did crApple invent the tablet? I think not!

Parry
17-07-2010, 01:05 PM
Did crApple invent the tablet? I think not!
They did invent phones with no reception though :devil

powerover
17-07-2010, 01:50 PM
Here:
http://lobelet.livejournal.com/

doesn't sound that impressive to me, certainly cnt justify the $295 price tag...

KarameaDave
17-07-2010, 01:54 PM
They did invent phones with no reception though :devil

:lol::lol::lol:

Erayd
17-07-2010, 01:55 PM
I also came across some black and white screen ebook readers and surprisingly they cost like $350-$400!!! why so much???Which one were you looking at? Yes, e-ink readers are expensive (mainly because the display technology isn't cheap; most of that cost pays for the display), but most of them aren't anything close to that price - for example, sony's ones start at $150US (and they're damn good devices).

I have an e-ink reader (have had it for around 2.5 years), and I love the thing - wherever possible, I get the ebook version of things rather than the dead tree one.

Chilling_Silence
17-07-2010, 02:19 PM
Looks quite decent. Right now some are going for < $150 (Though still have 7 hours left).

All I can say is that after having got myself a Nexus One and used Android on a Cellphone for ages, that it'd make a great Tablet OS.
Would definitely be better with Android-2.2 (Froyo), due to the speed improvements. Would make the likes of the 600Mhz CPU hum along real nice!

powerover
17-07-2010, 07:51 PM
Which one were you looking at? Yes, e-ink readers are expensive (mainly because the display technology isn't cheap; most of that cost pays for the display), but most of them aren't anything close to that price - for example, sony's ones start at $150US (and they're damn good devices).

I have an e-ink reader (have had it for around 2.5 years), and I love the thing - wherever possible, I get the ebook version of things rather than the dead tree one.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Other-electronics/Other/auction-303486548.htm

$420!! if you have had something like that for 2.5 years why is it still so expensive??

powerover
17-07-2010, 07:53 PM
I am using one of those very devices to answer this post.
Eken M001.
Bought it mainly to use as a eBook Reader.
Taking a while to learn how to drive it, but have pretty much got it sorted now.
You should be able to pick one up for about the same price as the Kobo eReader, which makes them resonable buying when you concider the extra functions they have.

can the ekenm001 do video playback? i can imagine it will struggle for HD videos?

Driftwood
17-07-2010, 08:33 PM
It can, but it's poor quality.
Sound is not that great either.
Have a look at the utube reviews.
I'm told a firmware update makes them go better, but I havent tried that yet.

powerover
17-07-2010, 09:46 PM
It can, but it's poor quality.
Sound is not that great either.
Have a look at the utube reviews.
I'm told a firmware update makes them go better, but I havent tried that yet.

umm..now that is useful info...thanks heaps :D

but that also got me confused, ipod touch has a processor which runs at the same speed, and same amount of ram, and they can do great sound, and their battery last a hell of a lot longer.....how come this device have poor sound then???:waughh:

Driftwood
17-07-2010, 10:56 PM
Well sound is resonable if you use headphones. Check out those reviews & you'll find your answers.

Erayd
18-07-2010, 12:48 AM
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Other-electronics/Other/auction-303486548.htm

$420!! if you have had something like that for 2.5 years why is it still so expensive??Because the seller has a very unrealistic idea of what they are worth.

I bought my reader (a Sony PRS-505) in March 2008, and it cost me $280 USD plus shipping. That was a fairly typical price for the time - most retailers then were selling it for between $260 and $310 USD.

These days, the equivalent is the Sony PRS-300. It's basically a newer version of the 505, but with a 5" screen instead of a 6" screen. They have the same resolution. The PRS-300 currently retails for $149 USD.

Chilling_Silence
18-07-2010, 03:47 PM
On a side note:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=303663461

Went for $153.90. What a steal of a price, especially when you compare it to the prices of the iPad.
Granted there's a lot you're not getting, such as 1/3 the battery life of the iPad, but at that price can you really complain?

I want one now!!! Wonder if there are ways to get them running Froyo?

somebody
18-07-2010, 04:10 PM
Because the seller has a very unrealistic idea of what they are worth.

I bought my reader (a Sony PRS-505) in March 2008, and it cost me $280 USD plus shipping. That was a fairly typical price for the time - most retailers then were selling it for between $260 and $310 USD.

These days, the equivalent is the Sony PRS-300. It's basically a newer version of the 505, but with a 5" screen instead of a 6" screen. They have the same resolution. The PRS-300 currently retails for $149 USD.

Here's a 6" touchscreen one for $349:

http://www.firstin.co.nz/products/sony-prs-600-touchscreen-ebook-reader-black-2899/

linw
18-07-2010, 05:16 PM
Here are a few more! http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.Android

Chilling_Silence
18-07-2010, 08:44 PM
Aren't those in USD though?

somebody
18-07-2010, 08:57 PM
Aren't those in USD though?

With free shipping though :)

Driftwood
19-07-2010, 12:19 PM
Just a bit more info on the Eken M001 after using it for a while.
It works very well as a eBook reader, once you install the appropriate app.
The one that comes with it is a bit of a fizzer.
Battery life as a reader can be extended quite a bit if you turn off the wireless & dimm the screen a bit. I would estimate 5-6 hrs.
I looked into buying an eReader first but they are too expensive for all they do.

linw
19-07-2010, 11:50 PM
Keep the reviews coming!

powerover
20-07-2010, 10:22 PM
thanks linw

this one here looks pretty good:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37867

these android based devices, can they be upgraded? they usually come with android 1.5, can you, say, up grade it to android 1.7 or something??? if yes, how?


I really want something a bit more powerful, but kind of slim as well, like the asus Eee pad?? is it even launched in NZ yet? I saw this WePad on line made by a company in Germany and it has a full HD screen!! I guess us in NZ will have to wait a bit... :(

thanks heaps guys

powerover
20-07-2010, 10:23 PM
Just a bit more info on the Eken M001 after using it for a while.
It works very well as a eBook reader, once you install the appropriate app.
The one that comes with it is a bit of a fizzer.
Battery life as a reader can be extended quite a bit if you turn off the wireless & dimm the screen a bit. I would estimate 5-6 hrs.
I looked into buying an eReader first but they are too expensive for all they do.

how do you install apps on it? plug a usb in and install it like u r in windows?

thanks for the review, keep it coming please :D

Chilling_Silence
20-07-2010, 11:10 PM
Apps are installed like all Android devices, from the Android Marketplace.

Installation is generally via WiFi, though there are other methods such as over-the-air (3G for Cellphones for example) or manually copying the .apk file to the device.

Keep in mind that a 600Mhz ARM-based CPU is still quite powerful. IIRC the 3GS iPhone runs at 600Mhz?

powerover
21-07-2010, 09:46 AM
Apps are installed like all Android devices, from the Android Marketplace.

Installation is generally via WiFi, though there are other methods such as over-the-air (3G for Cellphones for example) or manually copying the .apk file to the device.

Keep in mind that a 600Mhz ARM-based CPU is still quite powerful. IIRC the 3GS iPhone runs at 600Mhz?

I guess it means those device can handle 720p HD video like the iphone4??

what about security? as far as I know anyone can just write a android program and have nasty stuff embedded, the put it on the marketplace, am I right?

Chilling_Silence
21-07-2010, 11:38 AM
Technically speaking the Android devices could be considered more secure than Apple, because before you install an App it prompts you and shows you what parts of the device it has access to, such as phone calls, things like that.

When you say "handle 720p video", do you mean play it back? Or do you mean view it?

The iPhone4 screen resolution isn't large enough to view 720p video at it's native resolution anyway..

powerover
21-07-2010, 01:20 PM
Technically speaking the Android devices could be considered more secure than Apple, because before you install an App it prompts you and shows you what parts of the device it has access to, such as phone calls, things like that.

When you say "handle 720p video", do you mean play it back? Or do you mean view it?

The iPhone4 screen resolution isn't large enough to view 720p video at it's native resolution anyway..

i mean play it back. I saw some models on dealextreme which has a hd video output....so i guess they can handle, or say, play back hd videos...

i still don't know how to upgrade android to a higher version tho...

Chilling_Silence
21-07-2010, 01:41 PM
Android can handle it, but it's dependent upon the hardware to support that kind of resolution or output to a device which does.

Driftwood
21-07-2010, 02:29 PM
powerover if you are concidering one of these devices.

Here is the makers website http://www.ekengroup.com/en/product/index.asp?cateid=79

Here is the follow up forum http://www.slatedroid.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?5-Eken-M001

Regarding video playback. It is very poor. Not as good as a PSP.

powerover
21-07-2010, 04:30 PM
powerover if you are concidering one of these devices.

Here is the makers website http://www.ekengroup.com/en/product/index.asp?cateid=79

Here is the follow up forum http://www.slatedroid.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?5-Eken-M001

Regarding video playback. It is very poor. Not as good as a PSP.

umm thanks Drifty :D

checked out their website, and my final conclusion is no....and i think i will save up and get one of those asus eee pads....

i wanted something that can playback videos too.

thanks for all the info guys :D

Driftwood
21-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Yes it's the same old story, you get what you pay for.
PSP is great for video playback.

plod
21-07-2010, 05:58 PM
umm thanks Drifty :D

checked out their website, and my final conclusion is no....and i think i will save up and get one of those asus eee pads....

i wanted something that can playback videos too.

thanks for all the info guys :D
Where do I find info on the eee pad?

icow
21-07-2010, 07:39 PM
Try one of the ones at the top of the page. (http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.android) THe 95 US one can watch youtube vids apparently.

Driftwood
21-07-2010, 07:49 PM
Or this one.
http://androidcommunity.com/asus-eee-pad-ep101tc-to-get-android-instead-of-windows-embedded-20100720/

powerover
21-07-2010, 10:17 PM
Try one of the ones at the top of the page. (http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.android) THe 95 US one can watch youtube vids apparently.

lol...exact copies of the eken m001 :D, but it is a good looking thing and very cheap.

powerover
21-07-2010, 10:18 PM
Or this one.
http://androidcommunity.com/asus-eee-pad-ep101tc-to-get-android-instead-of-windows-embedded-20100720/

yeah this is what im talking about:drool

cnt get it until 2011 tho......

forgive me for asking, can psp be used as a ebook reader? u can use the thing for wifi right??

powerover
21-07-2010, 10:20 PM
Where do I find info on the eee pad?

google asus eee pad...

it is not out yet so you wnt find too much info on it yet...

Driftwood
21-07-2010, 10:39 PM
Regarding using a PSP as an eReader.
You can but it is limited by screen size.
Here is one of my previous threads re this. http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?t=110385

plod
21-07-2010, 10:41 PM
google asus eee pad...

it is not out yet so you wnt find too much info on it yet...
I did, and thats why I asked. Nothing too see