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smudge
11-07-2010, 05:08 PM
Wanting to get a good computer for gaming, such as battlefield, quantum of solace and other similar games.

I'm looking at these 2 auctions on trade me - 301661716 and 302595825

Can I have someone else's non-n00b opinion :lol: :lol: on what would be better for this type of thing?

Then there's this one.. 301124444 which is higher cpu speed, but not sure about the rest of the specs..

Renmoo
11-07-2010, 05:23 PM
:lol:

CPU speed: 11 GHz
CPU speed: 10 GHz

Battleneter2
11-07-2010, 05:53 PM
Yea not sure id buy a computer off anyone that is retarded enough to add each cores clock value together, its like adding 400HP for each cylinder on a car to come up with 3200HP, utter BS :P

Anyway i suggest you state your budget and we can make some recommendation and suggest a "trusted" retailer, probably as cheap.

The Error Guy
11-07-2010, 05:56 PM
Looking good, Just note one has an AMD Processor and the other one is an intel i5. apart from the extra GHz on the AMD auction (the first one you listed) some specialist products perform better with Intel/AMD based chipsets but I doubt that will be an issue with games.

The 2nd auction will be more expensive for a reason but apart from a more expensive component somewhere I dont think price is relating to an extra GB of RAM or better specs as far as I can see

Chilling_Silence
11-07-2010, 06:18 PM
Once you start hitting the quad-core market (Or even dual-core 3Ghz+) then it's pretty much *all* about your GPU, and not about your CPU or RAM. Anything 3GB upwards is enough for all the games that are out in todays market, so again, your GPU is the *core* part you want to spend as much money on as possible.

smudge
13-07-2010, 12:27 PM
Yea not sure id buy a computer off anyone that is retarded enough to add each cores clock value together, its like adding 400HP for each cylinder on a car to come up with 3200HP, utter BS :P

Unsure what that means, but I'll take your word for it lol.


Anyway i suggest you state your budget and we can make some recommendation and suggest a "trusted" retailer, probably as cheap.

I'm looking within the price range of those 3 auctions I listed.. say up to around 1500.


Someone who I know of who is a real gamer suggested this auction (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=301124444) was the one to go for.. It closes at 4.50pm, so if you're able to show me what I should be looking for before then, that would be great.

Thanks again.

CYaBro
13-07-2010, 12:33 PM
Someone who I know of who is a real gamer suggested this auction (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=301124444) was the one to go for.. It closes at 4.50pm, so if you're able to show me what I should be looking for before then, that would be great.

Thanks again.

That auction is just using the onboard graphics so will be no good for gaming.

Battleneter2
13-07-2010, 12:46 PM
Unsure what that means, but I'll take your word for it lol.



I'm looking within the price range of those 3 auctions I listed.. say up to around 1500.


Someone who I know of who is a real gamer suggested this auction (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=301124444) was the one to go for.. It closes at 4.50pm, so if you're able to show me what I should be looking for before then, that would be great.

Thanks again.

"""CPU speed: 17 GHz """ is utter bullsheep, no such thing is what I mean.

You wonder who you are buying off to make such a ridiculous claim. But knock yourself out, just hope you don't have any problems with it and need support.


301124444 this machine is hopeless for games unless you upgrade to a decent video card. As it stands it is a REALLY bad choice for gaming becuase it only has on-board video.

"""VGA Integrated ATI Radeon HD4200 with HDMI Output and 128mb DDR3 1333mhz Sideport memory plus up to 896mb shared memory""


Out of the machines you listed 301661716 is the the best gaming rig as it has the best video card.


I suggest you email a trusted retailer telling them your budget and you want it for gaming. This is just one retailer I would suggest.

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/

qazwsxokmijn
13-07-2010, 12:57 PM
Trademe retailers selling complete systems are ripoffs, never trust them for a value system. If you see a good CPU combo, the video card would most likely be crap or mediocre at best. If you see a good video card in the system, their CPU will be total crap (though when people see 'Quad' they'll think it's a good CPU - not necessarily).

As BT2 suggests, go email CComputerlounge and they'll give you the best value system for your cash.

pctek
13-07-2010, 01:14 PM
Wanting to get a good computer for gaming, such as battlefield, quantum of solace and other similar games.

I'm looking at auctions on trade me -

Crazy.
CPU is NOT the most important thing for gaming - the GPU is.

The CPU speeds are incorrect anyway, why do these halfwits think because it's multi core it means the Ghz is multiplied? It isn't.

They don't even have Windows - trial of Windows??!!! What the hell is that all about?

And how about good quality components, and warranty.
Any idiot can sell you something - if something goes wrong I for sure would want a reliable trustworthy shop to contact and have it sorted, not have to chase dodgy dealers off Trademe.


Go to either Computer Lounge or Playtech.

Cellux
13-07-2010, 01:14 PM
I suggest you email a trusted retailer telling them your budget and you want it for gaming. This is just one retailer I would suggest.

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/


Holy banana fruitcake.

Their prices are insane.

e.g.

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=12000

I got the gigabyte version $825 direct from dealer. (incl GST + postage)

They mustn't make money off of these.

smudge
13-07-2010, 01:24 PM
I suggest you email a trusted retailer telling them your budget and you want it for gaming. This is just one retailer I would suggest.

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/

Wow.. I'm glad I never went ahead and did a buy now.
I'll stay away from trade me in the future.

I'll give the people on that site an e-mail. I'm glad I came here before making any rash decisions! Thanks alot!

inphinity
13-07-2010, 02:06 PM
Unsure what that means, but I'll take your word for it lol.


If you have 3 watches that all say 3pm, that doesn't make it 9pm ;)

8ftmetalhaed
13-07-2010, 02:08 PM
Just post on their forums, that way you can have some input from other users too. They get new "need a new pc for under $1k" threads every day, so they know how to build to a budget.

But yes, pc's on trademe are ****. I hate to say it, but they are put together from the most random assortments of parts imaginable, by the most dodgy asian dealers around. Sorry, but they are. Biggest source of engrish on trademe is from their computer hardware auctions, and they quite often don't know what the hell they're talking about. (Or they know enough to mask what they're really selling.)
Their AMD builds, for example, will either have a great GPU to mask their shoddy athlon II cpu's, or their Intel builds will have a great CPU to mask their crappy GPU.
They don't even specify what motherboard or case they'll use sometimes. They say "asus or gigabyte" in many of them, implying that they'll give you the cheapest of either brand that they have lying around.
Their power supplies are cheap, often bundled with the case, and scarily enough they are often UNDER REQUIRED WATTAGE for the components they power, or they list the PEAK wattage instead.

And yes, like others have said, they always, ALWAYS give you "a free 30 day trial of windows 7, with key available at extra cost"
They don't even give you the god damn disc, because that means they'd have to spend extra money.


Anyway, hit up a computer store like playtech or computer lounge as others have suggested, take a look at the parts and do some research of your own.

For gaming, you'll need a decent CPU, i recommend quad core or higher the way things are going, 4gb of ram is STANDARD, combine it with a DECENT powersupply (ie thermaltake, corsair, some coolermaster, etc. Avoid hyena like the plague...) and then go all out on the GPU, which as we say, is where all your gaming performance will come from. Well, most of it anyway.
If you're trying to stick to a serious budget, go for a 5770 at a minimum, or 5830/50 if you can spring for it, or if you can wait for it, also have a look at nvidia's gtx460, which comes out in a little while. Computerlounge will have more info on it if you ask on their forums.

And don't forget to have it powering a nice HD monitor, and factor in the cost of an OS.
If you can build it yourself aswell, that'll save you some cash, but if you've never tinkered before, then leave it to the pros. If you ask em, they might even let you go in and build it supervised by a spare staff member, although they still might charge a little bit for that. It's easy enough, but can be daunting for a first timer.