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jcraw
05-07-2010, 11:26 AM
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 9300 2.50 GHZ Yorkfield 45nm
Video card NVIDIA Geforce 9800 GT X+
RAM 8 GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR2 800 MHZ
HDD 750GB Hitachi
Motherboard ASUS Benicia
OS Windows 7 Ultimate
Audio Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
Optical Drive TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N

Nothing Oc'ed

Cicero
05-07-2010, 11:34 AM
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 9300 2.50 GHZ Yorkfield 45nm
Video card NVIDIA Geforce 9800 GT X+
RAM 8 GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR2 800 MHZ
HDD 750GB Hitachi
Motherboard ASUS Benicia
OS Windows 7 Ultimate
Audio Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
Optical Drive TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N

Nothing Oc'ed

I am prepaired to give you $200,cash.

CYaBro
05-07-2010, 11:34 AM
Is it a genuine copy of Windows 7 Ultimate with DVD & product key?

pctek
05-07-2010, 12:32 PM
I'll give you $300

Battleneter2
05-07-2010, 12:46 PM
I offer ZWD$2000

qazwsxokmijn
05-07-2010, 01:18 PM
:(
:(:(:(:(

Seriously though.....around 800 - 1000, assuming it's a legit W7.

Nomad
05-07-2010, 02:50 PM
I won't be surprised if $300, check on Trademe.

I know that a single core 3Ghz with a Nvidia / ATI thrown in like a 9600 it might cost $75-100.

These days you could get the i-series new for not much with Windows 7.

qazwsxokmijn
05-07-2010, 02:51 PM
I won't be surprised if $300, check on Trademe.
I would be. The CPU and motherboard alone is worth almost $300.

SolMiester
05-07-2010, 03:02 PM
Yeah, I concur with gas...CPU and board is $300 even 2nd hand....HDD & GPU are meh, but 8GB RAM and o/s are both good!

Cicero
05-07-2010, 03:02 PM
I would be. The CPU and motherboard alone is worth almost $300.

We are talking second hand goods,as we walk out of shop they have depreciated by 50%.

Hence the need to keep for as long as possible to get some of the value.

Nomad
05-07-2010, 03:11 PM
I checked on Trademe for completed and current auctions I went thru 6 pages and not one had a bid. I used Q9400 b/c Q9300 didn't pick up a listing. PCs without a screen.

Other than one completed listing which was actually a E6300 or whatever that CPU was for $150.

If I were to spend that much I rather get something new.

qazwsxokmijn
05-07-2010, 04:04 PM
We are talking second hand goods,as we walk out of shop they have depreciated by 50%.

Hence the need to keep for as long as possible to get some of the value.
The value of computer parts doesn't work that way. If it's only priced at 50% then it's either a scam or parts with questionable functionality. Or you've just met a very generous seller, which is as rare as hen's teeth.

goodiesguy
05-07-2010, 04:14 PM
it would be worth at least $2000. the specs are very good

pctek
05-07-2010, 04:32 PM
:(:(:(:(

Seriously though.....around 800 - 1000, assuming it's a legit W7.

Core 2 Quad
9800 GT X+

HDD 750GB Hitachi

It's only a quad. Superceded now.
Unknown brand of GPU, and also not exactly gaming material now.
And a Hitachi drive.
$300

robbyp
05-07-2010, 04:37 PM
it would be worth at least $2000. the specs are very good

Perhaps if it was a brand name PC and from a toaster shop, byt even then I would say around the 1.5k mark. I would say it would be worth up to $500 second hand on trademe. Often selling it in parts you get more money too..

The Error Guy
05-07-2010, 07:01 PM
Considering the specs on the 100's of computers like this on trademe (most from relatively respectable sellers) http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Desktops/No-monitor/auction-300331211.htm or this one http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Desktops/No-monitor/auction-300066871.htm then that comp is maybe worth 500-1300

Jen
05-07-2010, 08:23 PM
argument over. no more will be said about this argument. if someone says one word about it, they will be taken out back and shotWhat a mess you lot have made with your bickering in this thread. Even in jest, threats are not tolerated.

Keep it on topic (and not about yourself) please.


BTW, remember we get international visitors.


[edit: I have removed all the off topic posts. I would also be surprised if our new member returns after this reception]

radium
05-07-2010, 08:42 PM
Secondhand I would say $800 to $1000.

goodiesguy
05-07-2010, 08:48 PM
Secondhand I would say $800 to $1000.

and they said i hadn't a clue when i said $1000 to $2000:groan:

Jen
05-07-2010, 08:55 PM
and they said i hadn't a clue when i said $1000 to $2000:groan:And I said keep it on topic and not about yourself. I would also suggest you re-read your first post, and then move on from this thread.

Greven
05-07-2010, 09:31 PM
There isn't much market for second hand "used to be awesome" PCs so you will probably have to accept a mid-range price for it. Anyone buying a second hand PC is looking for a bargain & the majority of them are just looking for "good enough" performance.

forrest44
05-07-2010, 09:45 PM
I would say at least $1000. You'd probably get more if you sell the parts seperately, it would definately pay to have a look at prices on Trademe.

Greven
05-07-2010, 10:01 PM
I would say at least $1000. You'd probably get more if you sell the parts seperately, it would definately pay to have a look at prices on Trademe.

It might be worth that in theory because it is twice as good as systems selling for half as much, but you will never be able to sell it at that price because it is more than most people need & not good enough for gamers.

The Error Guy
05-07-2010, 10:39 PM
Reading other peoples views I would definitely suggest selling it off in parts. someone will want the RAM and the HDD, the OS (if ligit should get a decent price maybe 60-120 depending on the version) GFX and processor should go. i'd probably bundle the processor and mobo together

hueybot3000
06-07-2010, 12:13 AM
This thread is a joke.

But I would part it out, worth more that way I think. Id be prepared to pay 500-600 complete

Agent_24
06-07-2010, 01:02 AM
Perhaps if it was a brand name PC and from a toaster shop, byt even then I would say around the 1.5k mark. I would say it would be worth up to $500 second hand on trademe. Often selling it in parts you get more money too..

I hope you don't mean it would be worth more if it were a Dell or something.

If anything, that would mean it would be worth less.

Brand name PCs are for fools.

SolMiester
06-07-2010, 08:09 AM
Wonder why the OP wants to sell it, its still a great PC, with a little work that could be running at 3-3.5 Ghz Quad, play most games @ 16x10

GreacherTech
06-07-2010, 09:49 AM
Who is to say he wants to sell?

DUNK
06-07-2010, 02:04 PM
[QUOTE=hueybot3000;927602]This thread is a joke.

Methinks that:- You've hit the nail, right on the head, my friend. OP's first & only effort, to date. Doubt if we'll ever hear from them again !! :groan:

The Error Guy
06-07-2010, 02:23 PM
he is buying the sucker!!! maybe idk

jcraw
07-07-2010, 07:27 PM
Wow so many replies I appricate it. I was just wondering because I have oddles of money and just wondering whether I should sale it or upgrade it. Was thinking....

I have 8GB DDR2 800 MHZ which is fine.

HDD I dont use half the space so its fine.

Motherboard however I want to upgrade if need to be, but doubtful.
Power supply is good one year old.

The GPU is the XFX brand, not a BFG sadly, That I have been looking at GTX280's/ATI 5770+.

My case I love so no need to replace.

My processor is a good one I know but idk I want something i can noticbly tell is faster. Q9300 is good but how about a good X**** series or a Q9550.


*sigh*.... Any ideas?

Agent_24
07-07-2010, 07:32 PM
If you have "Oodles of money" then just do a full upgrade to the fastest i7 CPU, new motherboard, DDR3 RAM and a GTX480 (Or two!) - then upgrade the PSU as well to power those cards!

If you want best performance, you aren't going to get it with any parts you have now. You will be limited by something...

icow
07-07-2010, 08:16 PM
Wow this thread has gone off topic.

Agent_24
07-07-2010, 08:47 PM
Wow this thread has gone off topic.

Actually, it was perfectly on topic, until you came along and posted that. Read stuff properly.

He updated and asked for ideas, I gave him one. That is not off-topic.

jcraw
08-07-2010, 06:25 AM
Well I may have oodles.. hehe silly word but im also smart. I could get a new comp to fit what I'd like for billion dollars but idk.

A new mobo roughly 100 bucks
another card 80 bucks 9800 GTX+
PSU= 100-200 bucks,

looken at 300-500 bucks for the upgrade, or a new pc at 900+ but way stronger. Sigh im so indecisive.

pctek
08-07-2010, 07:44 AM
Wow so many replies I appricate it. I was just wondering because I have oddles of money and just wondering whether I should sale it or upgrade it. ?

Seel it, not sale it.

Upgrade it. Oodles of money means you can go Core i7 and get a high end GPU.
Why change parts you don't need to?

Cicero
08-07-2010, 08:40 AM
If I had oodles,I wouldn't need to be indecisive I would buy the lot!

SolMiester
08-07-2010, 10:04 AM
This thread is a joke.

Methinks that:- You've hit the nail, right on the head, my friend. OP's first & only effort, to date. Doubt if we'll ever hear from them again !! :groan:

Guess you were wrong!

SolMiester
08-07-2010, 10:07 AM
Wow so many replies I appricate it. I was just wondering because I have oddles of money and just wondering whether I should sale it or upgrade it. Was thinking....

I have 8GB DDR2 800 MHZ which is fine.

HDD I dont use half the space so its fine.

Motherboard however I want to upgrade if need to be, but doubtful.
Power supply is good one year old.

The GPU is the XFX brand, not a BFG sadly, That I have been looking at GTX280's/ATI 5770+.

My case I love so no need to replace.

My processor is a good one I know but idk I want something i can noticbly tell is faster. Q9300 is good but how about a good X**** series or a Q9550.


*sigh*.... Any ideas?

You didnt say what size monitor you have!

I wouldnt bother with a 2nd 9800GTX+, sell it and get a 470 or perhaps the new 460 coming out next week!

Cicero
08-07-2010, 10:23 AM
Guess you were wrong!

I think he might be right,doesn't right to me!

SolMiester
08-07-2010, 11:05 AM
I think he might be right,doesn't right to me!
Eh, he said he doubted the OP would be back!...he was wrong!

Cicero
08-07-2010, 01:35 PM
Eh, he said he doubted the OP would be back!...he was wrong!

Lets see how it turns out.

hueybot3000
08-07-2010, 05:12 PM
Guess you were wrong!

When I said this thread was a joke I was referring to the number of immature posts that had to be deleted.

So you are both wrong! :p

jcraw
08-07-2010, 07:04 PM
:bananaSo pumped up got a deal:bananaI got...
(I7-860 2.8 GHZ):drool
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214
(8 GB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM memory):wub
No link
(MSI Motherboard)

For all 300 bucks! how? muahahha ebay ftw !

This guy bought a HP Pavilion Elite HPE-150f Desktop and the 23 inch monitor and couldnt keep it, brand freaken new. So I went to my buddy and said if I win would you split the cost and he said yes so we did for 611 bucks. He gets my old stuff

Me:
I7-860 Processor 2.8 GHZ Value (289.99)
8GB ddr3 memory Value (150+)
MSI motherboard value (100+)

Him:
Q9300 intel core 2 quad 2.5GHZ (keeps my Zalman 9500 CNPS heatsink)
8GB dd2 memory 800 speed
ASUS motherboard
AND the HP case/GT230 vid card better then his 6150SE lol, the new 1TB HDD, 23 inch 1080 p monitor, 7.1 sound card, new 450 PSU and better disk burner.


Pretty much were swapping the motherboard/processor/ram.

But yeah sick deal, I get my upgrade for stupid cheap and he gets a newer computer he had.

Q9300 VS AMD 3800+
GT230 1.5 GB vs 6150SE 256 MB
8GB vs 1GB
1 TB vs 250 GB
Win 7 vs Win xp
Card reader vs n/a
dvd/cd burner/play vs cd burn/play
New case vs old
450 watt vs 250 watt
Asus board vs ancient crap eck.


Thanks for all the replies:)

hueybot3000
08-07-2010, 07:10 PM
Id be pretty happy with that, youl seriously want a graphics card now though because it is a huge bottleneck on that grunt

jcraw
09-07-2010, 02:21 PM
9800 GTX+ gonna be bad? :(.... what would you suggest maybe a ATI 5830?

Agent_24
09-07-2010, 03:02 PM
I would suggest an HD5870 if you want some serious power.

jcraw
09-07-2010, 07:52 PM
Yea 5870 = 400 bucks so I'm good. I can cross fire two 5830's and get better performance for the cash really. Thank you for the suggestion though :)
Gonna get the Gigabyte ATI 5830
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125317&cm_re=ati_5830-_-14-125-317-_-Product

hueybot3000
09-07-2010, 08:35 PM
Dont do that, go single 5870. 5830 is too cut down for my liking, at least go 5850 and overclock it to 5870 specs. They are very good cards and way better having one grunty card than compromising with 2 ok cards

jcraw
11-07-2010, 12:02 PM
Yea I have been pulling at looking at the 5850, I just dont know going to a 5830 is a big jump as it is.

I use :
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=614&card2=626

to compare and for the 100 bucks I just dont see much diff but between 128 vs 128 and the 5850 with a few extras.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=571&card2=626

There is a big diff in speed alone. 70 vs 128

pctek
11-07-2010, 03:02 PM
9800 GTX+ gonna be bad? :(.... what would you suggest maybe a ATI 5830?

a 5970.

jcraw
12-07-2010, 05:58 AM
a 5970.

Yea... I cant see paying that much hehehe, since there are no games that cant be maxed out by a 5870.

SolMiester
12-07-2010, 10:09 AM
When I said this thread was a joke I was referring to the number of immature posts that had to be deleted.

So you are both wrong! :p

WTF?

SolMiester
12-07-2010, 10:10 AM
Lets see how it turns out.

Christ, for the 2nd time, he said he doubted he would be back, but it did!!! ***

SolMiester
12-07-2010, 10:11 AM
Yea I have been pulling at looking at the 5850, I just dont know going to a 5830 is a big jump as it is.

I use :
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=614&card2=626

to compare and for the 100 bucks I just dont see much diff but between 128 vs 128 and the 5850 with a few extras.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=571&card2=626

There is a big diff in speed alone. 70 vs 128
5830 is a dog......5850 or 5870...

qazwsxokmijn
12-07-2010, 02:13 PM
I reckon the 5830 doesn't deserve to be in the 58xx series, because it is much, much closer to a 5770 than it is to a 5850. ATI just castrated it too much for it to be called a 58xx card.

SolMiester
12-07-2010, 02:51 PM
I reckon the 5830 doesn't deserve to be in the 58xx series, because it is much, much closer to a 5770 than it is to a 5850. ATI just castrated it too much for it to be called a 58xx card.

+1

jcraw
12-07-2010, 07:27 PM
okay you all won my heart I have now...
new old
Processor: i7-860 vs q9300
Ram: 8gb ddr3 vs 8gb ddr2
GPU: ATI 5870 vs 9800 GTX+ ( You win... got it for 350 1 GB version not throw en out 600+)
Hard drive: 750 GB (same)
Case: Cooler master case with 9 120mm 4000+rpm fans and pci slot fan
PSU: 1100 watt PSU SLI/crossfire ready 2 6 pin 2 (6+2) pin 85% efficient with 6 rails
Disc drive: cd/dvd combo disc player/burner
OS: win 7 ultimate legit
Sound card: Sound blaster
Sound system: Logitech z2300 series
Monitor: hp 2009m 20 inch 1600 res.
Back up: APC Back-ups XS 1500 watt

Whats my set up worth now?


p.s. thank you for talken me into the 5870 its a sweet deal wont replace for.... like a year ahhahaha

pctek
12-07-2010, 08:10 PM
Processor: i7-860
Ram: 8gb ddr3
GPU: ATI 5870
Hard drive: 750 GB
Case: Cooler master case
PSU: 1100 watt PSU
OS: win 7 ultimate


I almost said great but what BRAND Psu?

qazwsxokmijn
12-07-2010, 08:16 PM
Man 1100W?? That's enough to power 3x GTX480s!

jcraw
12-07-2010, 08:17 PM
yea but it was 120 bucks

jcraw
12-07-2010, 08:18 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817190025

Agent_24
12-07-2010, 08:33 PM
That PSU is cheaper than my Enermax, which is only 625 Watts

Never heard of that brand before and can't find any reviews either, it's probably a piece of junk.

qazwsxokmijn
12-07-2010, 09:02 PM
Yeah, probably a piece of junk.

Agent_24
12-07-2010, 10:44 PM
The people in this thread seem to think they are pretty bad. http://www.evga.com/forumsarchive/tm.asp?m=100888843


It's Xion, don't buy it. For crying out loud it doesn't even have an active PFC!


Just say no to that thing.


Don't get that PSU - stick to good companies like OCZ, Corsair and PC Power and Cooling.


XION is junk, plain and simple. It's funny the people that say they have a 1000W XION PSU and say how well it has performed for them and that everyone should go out and buy one......and they are running 2 hard drives a mildly overclocked CPU and a single GPU. Sure if you don't stress anything they will most likely last but then why buy a 1000W PSU?

Take it or leave it, but the insanely low price should say it all really.

jcraw
14-07-2010, 12:04 PM
Only funny part about peoples ummm opinions is that they can say this now, but how does every company start off. I believe on the bottom. The reviews tell me a lot and to me that's very important. There's a lot of people that say Dells are awesome and they suck, people swear by AVG but are idiots cause that's like a flippen screen door on a submarine. Its people being loyal to one brand well how about a few years ago with cooler master people didn't like them but now a lot of people recommend them. Its a 1000 watt power supply and is at 85% efficient, its way more then Ill ever need.

wratterus
14-07-2010, 12:08 PM
...and it's a cheap piece of crap. The PSU is the only component in the PC that's connected to everything...if it blows there's the potential there for serious damage. Get something decent.

If you're shopping at NewEgg why not get one of these?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095&cm_re=seasonic-_-17-151-095-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151083&cm_re=seasonic-_-17-151-083-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088&cm_re=seasonic-_-17-151-088-_-Product

Agent_24
14-07-2010, 03:32 PM
Only funny part about peoples ummm opinions is that they can say this now, but how does every company start off. I believe on the bottom. The reviews tell me a lot and to me that's very important. There's a lot of people that say Dells are awesome and they suck, people swear by AVG but are idiots cause that's like a flippen screen door on a submarine. Its people being loyal to one brand well how about a few years ago with cooler master people didn't like them but now a lot of people recommend them. Its a 1000 watt power supply and is at 85% efficient, its way more then Ill ever need.

No, A decent company will invest a lot of money in R&D and testing etc to ensure that its products are good from day one. They won't release the product until they know it's good.

Starting out with crap from day one and then trying to get better just gives you a bad name from day one, and that is not good if you want to give customers a good impression.


That does not mean that a company can't go from bad to good. If Coolermaster has indeed increased their quality recently it may be they realised that if they didn't start getting some decent products out the door, people would buy something else.

Even so, a quick look at some Coolermaster PSU reviews turns up that most of them aren't very good:

Coolermaster GX-750 (http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=188) Couldn't run the 750 Watts it was rated for, and ripple was out of ATX specification on anything over a 435 Watt load, which is pretty pathetic

CM eXtreme Power Plus 600 Watt (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-600-W-Power-Supply-Review/1034/7) Couldn't supply 600 watts (main switching transistor burnt out), voltage regulation was out of specification on loads over 450 Watts, 600 watt rating is lies.

Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 800 (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Silent-Pro-Gold-800-W-Power-Supply-Review/1028/7) -12v rail out of specification, +12v rail almost out of specification.

I could go on but hopefully you get the idea.

A decent PSU will have no problems supplying what is written on the label, and will keep ripple within the ATX specifications (usually a lot lower) and use high grade components as well for long life.

hueybot3000
14-07-2010, 05:52 PM
There's a lot of people that say Dells are awesome and they suck. Its a 1000 watt power supply and is at 85% efficient, its way more then Ill ever need.

Dells have there place, just not in any enthusiasts homes. I would never buy one but for someone like my nana they're fine. But I wouldnt let her use one either :illogical

The rating of a PSU doesnt mean everything, My enermax has been proven to be fine past its rated wattage, not that it will need to. And with lots of $ of hardware running off it id want peace of mind knowing that its more likely I drop my computer off a cliff than it dying on its own. Worth spending the extra $ on it, even if it seems unnecessary to you.

Try googling some rubbish PSU "brands" and you might understand where we're coming from

Agent_24
14-07-2010, 06:55 PM
Dells have there place, just not in any enthusiasts homes. I would never buy one but for someone like my nana they're fine. But I wouldnt let her use one either :illogical

Dell's place is lame office machines and servers. I notice most of the desktop cases are designed so upgrades are impossible too. Their idea of an upgrade means you throw it away and get a new one.

Sure Dell do XPS series for gaming but I'm fairly sure a custom build would be cheaper and better.

hueybot3000
14-07-2010, 06:59 PM
A large percentage of computers used by hospital staff at Chch hospital appear to be Dells. And from the looks of it they seem to be a few years old. Id say thats a good use for dell, spreadsheets etc

Henweh
19-07-2010, 09:21 PM
How about you rip it apart and sell it in pieces if the motherboard and cpu are worth that much?