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VendettaSteel
07-06-2010, 06:50 PM
Hey guys, just wondering if this would be a competent PC for gaming.

PROCESSOR : Intel® Core™ i5 650 Processor (3.20GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB Cache)
OPERATING SYSTEM: Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit Edition (English)
MEMORY: 4GB (2X2GB) DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz Memory
HARD DRIVE : 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive with Native Command Queuing
VIDEO CARD: 1792MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260

Thanks again,
VendettaSteel

stormdragon
07-06-2010, 06:55 PM
Welcome to PressF1.

What sort of games are you planning on playing and at what resolution?

qazwsxokmijn
07-06-2010, 06:56 PM
How much are you paying for the GTX260? Just because it has a large memory doesn't mean it is the best. That's how they suck people in. Other than that the PC looks good, though I would replace the i5 650 with an i5 750.

Blam
07-06-2010, 07:01 PM
Looks pretty good, but have you decided on a Motherboard and PSU?

Aniketwww
07-06-2010, 07:11 PM
How much are you paying for the GTX260? Just because it has a large memory doesn't mean it is the best. That's how they suck people in. Other than that the PC looks good, though I would replace the i5 650 with an i5 750.

yes i agree with qazwsxokmijn and u should get gtx 275 1gb:);)

VendettaSteel
07-06-2010, 07:14 PM
I could replace the i5 with an i7-860 an I will probably be playing games like Far Cry 2, Just Cause 2, Fallout 3 at a resolution of 1280x1024. Also, what do you think of the graphics card (I could replace it with an ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB)?

VendettaSteel
07-06-2010, 07:22 PM
How much are you paying for the GTX260? Just because it has a large memory doesn't mean it is the best. That's how they suck people in. Other than that the PC looks good, though I would replace the i5 650 with an i5 750.

I am paying around $100 (NZ) for the GTX 260. Also, what do you think of upgrading to a core i7 (it will cost me $150)?

qazwsxokmijn
07-06-2010, 07:34 PM
Where are you getting all these parts from? Seems to be very cheap.....

VendettaSteel
07-06-2010, 07:39 PM
Where are you getting all these parts from? Seems to be very cheap.....
I have a cousin who works at pc programing buisness and can get the parts on the cheap.

qazwsxokmijn
07-06-2010, 09:39 PM
Hmmm....still seems insanely cheap. But as you said earlier, get a 5770 in place of the GTX260. And if you can upgrade the CPU to an i7 860 for only $150, then go for it.

Metla
07-06-2010, 09:46 PM
Porkies.

Take $10 off the cheapest retail price and you have the wholesale price.

8ftmetalhaed
07-06-2010, 11:21 PM
I've got a 5770 i5 750 combo, works great for l4d2, bioshock 2, even with max/near max setts in full HD (1920x1080) I pull steady frames.

pctek
08-06-2010, 08:18 AM
The graphics card is the single most importnat component for gaming. I'd leave the CPU as is and bump the card up more. 5770, bit lame really.

Battleneter2
08-06-2010, 08:21 AM
I am paying around $100 (NZ) for the GTX 260. Also, what do you think of upgrading to a core i7 (it will cost me $150)?

Yea grab the I750 quad, can no longer reccommned dual cores. You definately dont need to go I7, the I750 is a good performer and a good overclocker if you decided to go that way.

At a resolution of only 1280x1024 that GTX260 is more than enough be it a little aging, id be looking at a new monitor.

wainuitech
08-06-2010, 08:26 AM
Porkies.

Take $10 off the cheapest retail price and you have the wholesale price.
SPOT on :thumbs:

Whole sale price in NZ for example on a GTX 260 is a LOT more then around $100.

inphinity
08-06-2010, 11:25 AM
I can't even find a GTX260 wholesale from the US for under US$110. Why are you running at such a low res btw, if you're spending all this $$ on a gaming PC get a decent monitor!

Trev
08-06-2010, 11:55 AM
What kind of monitor. Get a 22" WS or better LCD HD monitor to run at 1920 X 1080.
:)

Chilling_Silence
08-06-2010, 01:30 PM
I'm with pctek / Metla / wainuitech

See here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2362-6.html
http://www.slizone.com/docs/IO/72518/SLI-Optimize.jpg

Spend more on GPU.

That said, you should *easily* be able to run anything at those resolutions with anti-aliasing and anti-stropic filtering on, no worries!
Spend less on the CPU and more on a nicer HD LCD to run at higher resolutions.

These prices almost sound too good to be true, I'd be careful it's not come off the back of a truck...

Chilling_Silence
08-06-2010, 01:32 PM
It's also worth noting, I know that PBTech regularly make between 0% and 0.5% on the products they sell. There's *very* little margin in the sale of PC Hardware for the better part ...

Battleneter2
08-06-2010, 02:58 PM
It's also worth noting, I know that PBTech regularly make between 0% and 0.5% on the products they sell. There's *very* little margin in the sale of PC Hardware for the better part ...

Largely agree, but those markups would be in rare situations, ie dumping ram due to price drops caused by a fast moving $NZ etc, or dumping slow moving stock.

Wholesale "averages" more around 5% and retail around 8-15% (if they have to support a store front) much less than this and they are not in business or at least not for long. Computer hardware is truly one of the worst return industries to be in.

pctek
08-06-2010, 03:41 PM
I'm with pctek / Metla / wainuitech

See here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2362-6.html
http://www.slizone.com/docs/IO/72518/SLI-Optimize.jpg

Spend more on GPU.

Spend less on the CPU.

Yes. People always budget on the card. Geez, why? If you're not gaming, but then you're not buying cool hardware in the first place.
First thing I did when I could afford it, bump the card up.....

icow
08-06-2010, 08:31 PM
Yes. People always budget on the card. Geez, why? If you're not gaming, but then you're not buying cool hardware in the first place.
First thing I did when I could afford it, bump the card up.....

Whats the best card you can buy right now? and is ATI still better than nVidia or have I been told a load of bull?

qazwsxokmijn
08-06-2010, 08:34 PM
5970. Which pctek has. :D

Sweep
08-06-2010, 08:57 PM
Whats the best card you can buy right now? and is ATI still better than nVidia or have I been told a load of bull?

One of these possibly. Hope you are sitting down when you look at the price. :waughh:

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=384246

goodiesguy
08-06-2010, 09:03 PM
that price is terrible. i could get a decent laptop with windows 7 on it for that price

8ftmetalhaed
08-06-2010, 10:36 PM
I got a laptop for that price.
Logically if you got a good enough motherboard you'd get better performance for your buck from having two lower end graphics cards running in SLI/crossfire. I'm assuming that on a dual gpu setup you've pretty much got a split of 8x lanes between the two in a single slot, which my motherboard offers if you use both slots. So you could get my mobo and two 5770's for about 800-900 dollars, get probably comparable performance and still have 300 left over.

Then again, this might not be the case.
But jesus christ it's still not worth having that gpu right now. There are so many more useful things in life that could be paid for with that $1200.

pctek
09-06-2010, 08:43 AM
that price is terrible. i could get a decent laptop with windows 7 on it for that price

And? It wouldn't play games as well.

Battleneter2
09-06-2010, 10:29 AM
that price is terrible. i could get a decent laptop with windows 7 on it for that price

Depends on your gaming resolution and if it brings enjoyment....

In reality you can buy a ATI HD5870 for around the $650 mark that will play most games 2560x1600 at over 50FPS.

Certainly a 5870 is overkill for the far more common resolution of 1920x1200 and lower accept a few new games like Metro(that sucks anyway) and Crysis prob more like 40FPS but still smooth.

I would rate the ATI 5850 $450 (preference) and Nvidia GTX470 as the true current minimum gaming cards looking forward.

Sweep
09-06-2010, 11:16 AM
that price is terrible. i could get a decent laptop with windows 7 on it for that price

And I could probably get 1200 cans of baked beans too.

Personally I don't tell people what to buy with their money. Surely we have a Government already that does that.

All about priorities on what a person decides to do with their disposable income.

VendettaSteel
09-06-2010, 04:06 PM
Hmmm....still seems insanely cheap. But as you said earlier, get a 5770 in place of the GTX260. And if you can upgrade the CPU to an i7 860 for only $150, then go for it.

Firstly, thanks a ton, secondly I bought the parts on the black market, that's why they're so cheap, MUAHUAHUAHUAHA.
No, just kidding, I threw this together on dell's website to see what price I would be looking at, and it cost me $150 more than the initial price, of course I didn't mean the retail price ;)
Regards,
VendettaSteel

icow
09-06-2010, 04:38 PM
5970. Which pctek has. :D

How the hell do you afford something like that?