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nerd
03-04-2010, 12:13 PM
hey there i was wanting to buy a cheap desktop from like a non brand shop like PB tech or something. its primary use will be for gaming and i want to spend ~1500 on it. any ideas?
also it doesnt need to have any software on it, i have microsoft office and i can get W7 ultimate through elms. i just want a powerful pc. oh yea it needs an awesome gfx card

Sweep
03-04-2010, 12:31 PM
Good luck with that gfx card. You can blow almost the whole budget on that alone.

wainuitech
03-04-2010, 12:33 PM
Need a LOT more information as to what you want - Saying "oh yea it needs an awesome gfx card "

A "Awesome" card alone could cost you almost all of your budget This card (http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=384246) for example.

What sort of CPU,AMD / Intel, if Intel, i5 ??? Crossfire / SLI as well ??

Sweep
03-04-2010, 12:40 PM
The card wainuitech suggest is very good. That will leave you about $215 for the rest of the system.

hueybot3000
03-04-2010, 07:45 PM
amd athlon 64 system off trademe plus the card wainui posted. Will make the graphics even better seeming

Thebananamonkey
03-04-2010, 11:22 PM
Change the 4850's for a 5850 and you've got yourself a system. (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/value-gaming-pc,2578.html)
Also, I'd go for a 1000 or 1500GB HDD. But that's just me.

Ranked list of NZ computer retailers (http://www.gpforums.co.nz/thread/297771/?)

I try to go with ComputerLounge, Ascent or PP.

pctek
04-04-2010, 08:33 AM
i was wanting to buy a cheap desktop
its primary use will be for gaming and i want to spend ~1500 on it. a
i just want a powerful pc.

Can't happen.
Totally impossible,
Cheap and powerful and gaming all in the same requirements - not going to happen.

You can have high end and expensive, or cheap and low end or something in between.

As has been said, you can spend loads on just the graphics card. Keep saving.

stormdragon
04-04-2010, 08:49 AM
What sort of games were you wanting to play and what resolution do you want to play them at?

gary67
04-04-2010, 09:46 AM
And do you need monitor, keyboard mouse etc?

JJJJJ
04-04-2010, 10:02 AM
There's no such animal as a good $1500 PC. All you'll get for that is what is euphamisticly called "entry level".

Thebananamonkey
05-04-2010, 12:17 AM
There's no such animal as a good $1500 PC. All you'll get for that is what is euphamisticly called "entry level".

The comp that I linked to would be far more than adequate once 2x4850's were replaced with a 5850. Assuming that $1500 doesn't include mouse/keyboard etc.

Overclockable Quad Core, 4GB RAM, 4850. Would almost all games on ultra high settings at 19*10. Would probably survive 25*16 on high settings too. Although if you can afford 25*16, you'd definitely have a better rig than this.

Your stratosphere dwelling hardware precludes you from judging us mere mortals on entry level.

Agent_24
05-04-2010, 03:52 PM
You can get a pretty good setup for around $1500, if you exclude everything outside the case.

Just make sure you get a good PSU...

Pricespy can be useful.

nerd
06-04-2010, 03:23 PM
uuh woops havent been home for a while. only need a 1gb gfx card. monitor and keyboard and mouse are not included in the 1500 ish.a 500gb hdd would do. i think only the graphics card would be the big thing for me. i was wanting a nvidia 200 series or an ati. not too great with any of this stuff.

hueybot3000
06-04-2010, 06:45 PM
Ok you could try something like

case $150
CPU - i5 750 - $375
Mobo - Asus P7P55D E LX - $240
Ram - cheapest 4Gig 1333 - $250ish
Graphics - 4890 if you can find one but if you want an awesome one then your looking at about $700
PSU - Corsair or Enermax 650watt - $200-$250
Hard drive - 500Gig - $110

Your looking at about 2k with that and thats using a cheap mobo (but good brand) and rubbish ram so no overclocking for you :groan:

With your budget your probaly better looking at a overclocked core2 system and spending as much as you can on the graphics.

Otherwise keep saving

nerd
06-04-2010, 06:58 PM
umm. i was talkin to this pc builder at the shop and after a bit of upgrading i got it to:
quad core 620 2.6ghz (whats the 620 for?)
24" monitor
18x dual layer dvd writer (think thats a little slow? doesnt matter tho)
1tb sata hdd
1 gb gfx. dont know which one to pick but for the price that ill put on later its a nvidia 240
no os
ddr3 4gb ram. the comp had ddr2 but i wanted ddr3 cuz its newer but if it doesnt matter then it saves me $40.
he said i could get this with a keyboard and mouse as well for about 1700. im pretty keen but i dont know if its a good deal or not. is it a good comp and would you buy it for that much?

hueybot3000
06-04-2010, 08:24 PM
what sorta mobo? And what brands. Youd be silly to buy without knowing brands. And if you can build it yourself you could save 100 bucks or so, and get a more reliable warranty/ better brands

Thebananamonkey
06-04-2010, 09:56 PM
The one I posted earlier:

CPU - AMD Athlon II X3 720 (http://www.pp.co.nz/products.php?pp_id=AA15592) -$200 (3.7GHZ is a common OC for this CPU)

MoBo - Gigabyte GA-MA790GPT-UD3H (http://www.pp.co.nz/products.php?pp_id=AA16709) - $236 (The 4th core of the CPU can be unlocked with this mobo Mobo.)

RAM - G.Skill Ripjaws (http://www.pp.co.nz/products.php?pp_id=AA17987) - $231

GPU - Gigabyte 5850 (http://www.pp.co.nz/products.php?pp_id=AA19084) - $509

HDD - Seagate Barracuda 1TB (http://www.pp.co.nz/products.php?pp_id=AA16352) -$183

$150 for a case with OK ventilation. $100 for a CPU cooler. $150-170 for a 600W PSU. $70 for a DVD drive and you have yourself a deal for just over $1800.
You could cut these components back, but I think you'd compromise performance for saving a tiny amount.

Also, the amount of RAM on a video card doesn't tell you what performance it will give. The 5850 is the best value kick-ass GPU you can get at the moment.

dian77
06-04-2010, 10:59 PM
$150 for a case with OK ventilation.


get a dragonlord K58 from computer lounge, good case

Deimos
06-04-2010, 11:28 PM
I recently got myself a 5870 for around $650, normally I go with a golden rule of $500 or less for a vid card, and I totally agree that the 5850 is an awesome card, best bang for buck at the moment if you can swing it.

nerd
06-04-2010, 11:49 PM
i wouldnt know what all of that is. i found the one it was:
http://www.thepcfactory.co.nz/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=&idproduct=274
doesnt have much info on it at all though. its that computer but upgraded a little.

Agent_24
06-04-2010, 11:56 PM
The Phenom 9550 is old, they don't even specify what graphics card (And 256MB is pretty small now)

They also don't specify PSU brand or anything else really, safe bet they're using the cheapest ones they can find.

I wouldn't buy it, it looks overpriced and probably unreliable junk.

nerd
07-04-2010, 02:55 PM
i asked him about the brands and am waiting for him to get back to me. does the ddr 3 ram matter or should i go for the cheaper ddr2? im also gona try a few of the online retailers that were on the bananamonkey's first post adn get back to you guys

nerd
08-04-2010, 06:39 PM
ok i built this on playtech:
Playtech Prelude GTI Gaming Desktop PC
Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz Quad Core Processor
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit
4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 CL9 Dual Channel Memory
1TB - SATA2 3Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD
Single NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 1GB GDDR3 - 3D Vision/ PhysX Ready
PlayTech Approved Intel H55 Chipset Motherboard
High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Playtech Approved 600W Power Supply
Antec Two Hundred Mid Tower Gaming Case
PlayTech Rewind System Recovery DVD - normally $99 !!
BullGuard Internet Security 9.0 - 60 Days Free Trial
Microsoft Office 2007 Professional - 60 Day Trial
AOC 2236Vw 21.5" Full HD 1920x1080 5ms 60000:1 HDCP DVI USB Ports Black LCD Monitor
Razer - Arctosa Gaming Keyboard Silver Edition
Razer Abyssus High Precision 3.5G Gaming Infrared Sensor Wired Mouse
Logitech X-210 2.1 Black Speaker Retail (X210)
Bioshock 2 (PC) - Free for Limited time only !!!
Front Connection: 1x Audio, 1x Mic, 2xUSB2.0
Back Connection: 6xUSB2.0, 7.1 AUDIO/MIC, 1xRJ45, 1xPS/2
Adobe Acrobat Reader & Nero Burning software included
this will cost about $1976
if i took off the os, screen, speakers, keyboard and mouse and got them myself, i would save about $550can i get it all for less than that or should i get it with the computer, i dont need a flash one just a decent hd monitor
is the gpu HD?

Speedy Gonzales
08-04-2010, 06:50 PM
So, is this a ready made system (it doesnt sound like a built one if these are on it). I wouldnt bother with any of these

BullGuard Internet Security 9.0 - 60 Days Free Trial

Microsoft Office 2007 Professional - 60 Day Trial

Adobe Acrobat Reader & Nero Burning software included

Looks like the GPU is HD. Altho if you want to use it, you may have to buy a SPDIF cable (just make sure the mobo has a SPDIF connection, it probably does)

nerd
08-04-2010, 06:51 PM
i like this one better actually. with no extras, just the pc (lets say the one aove was $1350
this one is $1429
which would be better?

Playtech Assassin GTR Gaming Destktop PC [change specs]
AMD Phenom II X4 925 2.8GHz (6MB Cache) Quad Core Processor
No Operating System
4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 CL9 Dual Channel Memory
1TB - SATA2 3Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD
Single NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 1GB GDDR3 - 3D Vision/ PhysX Ready
PlayTech Approved AMD 770 Chipset Motherboard - USB3.0 & SATA3 6Gbps Ready
High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
PlayTech Approved 650W Power Supply with 80Plus Certification
Cooler Master Storm Scout Mid Tower Gaming Case
PlayTech Rewind System Recovery DVD - normally $99 !!
No Security Software pre-installed
No Office Suite Software pre-installed
No Monitor
No Keyboard
No Mouse
No Speaker or Headphone
Front Connection: 1x Audio, 1x Mic, 4xUSB2.0, 1xeSATA
Back Connection: 6xUSB2.0, 2xUSB3.0, 7.1 AUDIO/MIC, 2xSPDIF, 2xeSATA, 2x1394, 1xRJ45, 2xPS/2
Adobe Acrobat Reader & Nero Burning software included

nerd
08-04-2010, 06:54 PM
i couldnt take them off. i didnt build it from scratch, i dont have enough computer knowledgeto build from scratch. i just pick a pc i like and click customise. lol can someone help me build one from scratch if its better then?

hueybot3000
08-04-2010, 06:59 PM
what the hell does playtech approved power supply mean lol the cheapest they have that doesnt get rma'd often?

Speedy Gonzales
08-04-2010, 07:00 PM
Umm the 2nd one. You would need Windows 7 for USB 3, and you would have to wait for SP1 to come out before it supports USB 3. (Not too sure if Vista supports USB 3 yet either). Cyabro may help you out, well he maybe the only person up there who can. It'd probably be cheaper building one that buying one with all the trial crap on it

nerd
08-04-2010, 07:05 PM
ill try build one with ascent, hope its not too hard tho. what other good shops are there? i got till next wednesday to decide what to get. oh woops i didnt know they didnt build it for you. i have no idea how to do that so ill leave it to the experts. and i have windows 7. so you mean until i have sp1 i cant use the usb drive? thats a bit bs dont you think?

wainuitech
08-04-2010, 07:28 PM
what the hell does playtech approved power supply mean lol the cheapest they have that doesnt get rma'd often? Add to that the playtech approved Motherboard -- How nice ;)

As for the USB - it should still work perfectly fine with the current USB devices, just means its USB3 Ready / capable when it gets here.


What the hell is
PlayTech Rewind System Recovery DVD - normally $99 !! DONT include that -- the only CD's /DVD's you need are the windows OS DVD - which you say you have, and driver cd/dvd for the components, motherboard , graphic card etc. Which SHOULD come with the component Eg: Motherboard or Graphic Card.

nerd
08-04-2010, 08:14 PM
its only $10 though so its no biggie.

hueybot3000
08-04-2010, 09:05 PM
still 10 bucks that you dont need to spend...

as for building it, I say have a crack. Its really not that hard and we're here if theres any problems

nerd
08-04-2010, 09:29 PM
by building you mean me doing it myself instead of just choosing the components online and have them put it together?

Speedy Gonzales
08-04-2010, 09:31 PM
Thats it. You buy the ram, the mobo, the PSU, the hdd, CPU, cd/dvd's, and cards etc. Then install them

hueybot3000
08-04-2010, 09:32 PM
buy all the parts and then sit down at home with a bourbon and nut it out. Its not hard and its useful to know when it comes to fixing things

nerd
08-04-2010, 09:52 PM
ok then, so what exactly do i need to buy for a complete pc?
and im trying to narrow down what i want:
4 gb of ram
an i5 750 2.66 ghz or a AMD Phenom II X4 925 2.8
gigabyte 5080 or nvidia gts 250
a tb hdd
i know it needs cooling and a case, some sort of mobo, etc. dont know of any though XD
cant believe im studying to be a software engineer with this little knowledge, lol

Speedy Gonzales
08-04-2010, 09:54 PM
Think about what you WANT to use it for first. Then decide on whether you want Intel or AMD. You need the case of course to put whatever in it. The PSU/CPU, hdd/ram, mobo, and cards. And windows if you dont have an OS. See if Cyabro can assemble it. Get the parts then PM him

nerd
08-04-2010, 10:02 PM
id ask him but i just remembered that i need to get the comp shipped to waikato because im only home for the holidays and im taking hte bus down. and getting free shipping to my hall would be sweet. my parents said to just take the laptop and build one in the symester break, that could be a good idea and i got nothing against this laptop except it has no gpu i think. does anyone know how to figure out what you have? it can barely run cod4, thats why i was stressing the 1gb thing, lol. figured out it wasnt the ram because my mates lptop runs it perfectly and he has the same spec except for the 1gb of gfx.

Speedy Gonzales
08-04-2010, 10:10 PM
Umm the laptop will have a GPU otherwise you wouldnt see anything, and you cant add one. And I wouldnt bother with trying to play games on laptops.

Altho, this depends on the speed of the CPU on it, and the amount of ram

Agent_24
08-04-2010, 11:48 PM
id ask him but i just remembered that i need to get the comp shipped to waikato because im only home for the holidays and im taking hte bus down. and getting free shipping to my hall would be sweet. my parents said to just take the laptop and build one in the symester break, that could be a good idea and i got nothing against this laptop except it has no gpu i think. does anyone know how to figure out what you have? it can barely run cod4, thats why i was stressing the 1gb thing, lol. figured out it wasnt the ram because my mates lptop runs it perfectly and he has the same spec except for the 1gb of gfx.

A GPU is not just for playing games, it's for processing ANY graphics at all - that means the Windows GUI included.

Most laptops have pretty lame GPUs not designed for gaming though.

Graphics memory means nothing, I saw a laptop advertised on TV this week with 1.7GB of Video RAM - and it was some Intel Graphics (which are one of the WORST!)

You need a decent Geforce or Radeon GPU with a good amount of RAM if you want to play games OK.

Said 1.7GB Intel graphics would be easily beaten by my old 8600GT with only 256MB of RAM, most likely.

nerd
09-04-2010, 05:54 PM
ok then a new method. how bout people suggest different builds to me that are around the 1500 price range (+-100?) then we have like a vote or something. and i dont think id need a very overclockable thing because i have no idea how to overclock and i probably will not do it until my computer is old and useless for anything.

hueybot3000
09-04-2010, 06:04 PM
We're here to help, not hold your hand. Do a little research yourself. Other than COD what are you going to use it for? If its primarily gaming then allow as much money as possible for graphics card. Editing etc then give more money to the CPU and Ram.

There is a few suggested systems already in this thread, have you even paid attention?

Overclocking isn't for newbies so wouldn't worry to much about highend mobo (thats basically the difference between an overclockable pc and one that wont) and ram. But do yourself a favour and buy decent brands, like asus and gigabyte. They are much less likely to let you down.

And spending $250 on a PSU might seem a bit wasteful but considering it powers everything its money well spent. Sure a cheapo no name PSU will still boot your computer, at some point though it will die on you and drag something or everything down with it. Enermax and Corsair are brands that I would trust the most.

nerd
09-04-2010, 06:30 PM
i asked a shop for a quote on one i built, it was in pdf so i dont know how to link it to you guys so i took a screenshot of it hopefully the comonents are visible.
http://www.glowfoto.com/static_image/08-222709L/5349/jpg/04/2010/img6/glowfoto

hueybot3000
09-04-2010, 06:34 PM
swap the psu for a better brand and sorted, seems kinda pricey though. Price everything on pricespy and see what it comes out as

nerd
09-04-2010, 06:41 PM
this might sound really noobish, but which ones the psu? and is this one better than the playtech assasin gtr with the amd phenom II prosessor? imo that is a good computer so does my equally noobish friend, playtech is not a bad company so i guess the playtech approved psu wont be too bad.. il post here with the total after iv run it through pricespy

hueybot3000
09-04-2010, 06:43 PM
coolermaster 600watt is the psu

Agent_24
09-04-2010, 06:58 PM
Cooler Master? Pfft.

Get an Enermax or Antec or Corsair

nerd
09-04-2010, 07:10 PM
i5-$323.48
gigabyte p55 usb3 - $215
kingston - $223
wd - $127
5850 - $ 472
cooler master (found the psu) - 182
lg gh22ns50 - $46
except for that $15 frieght this seems a lot cheaper than pricespy. i also looked at the price for a gforce 260 and it looks like ill save about 100 dollars if i get that and it will be more in my price range.

nerd
09-04-2010, 07:16 PM
corsair 520 hx for $168
corsair 650 tx for $187
enermax liberty eco 620w for $164
antek earthwatts 650w for $134
i think the antek would be best for power output but i dont really know what matters when choosing psu's

qazwsxokmijn
09-04-2010, 07:20 PM
If you don't know how to pick PSUs then all you'll need is the watt rating and brand. Any of the brands you've picked are good - go with any.

nerd
09-04-2010, 07:29 PM
is the AMD Phenom II X3 2.8 better or more worth its money than the i5? im trying to bring the price down. thanks

qazwsxokmijn
09-04-2010, 07:32 PM
The i5 is much better.

nerd
09-04-2010, 07:52 PM
woops i meant amd phenom II x4 2.8 worth $220 that will cut off a hundy though and i dont think my dad wants to pay over 1600
the i5 is only 2.66 i think

qazwsxokmijn
09-04-2010, 07:56 PM
It's not the clockspeed that you should be looking at when comparing the two CPUs. It's their architecture and other technical genius stuff that I don't understand myself. What Phenom is it? The 9xx series are quite decent for gaming.

Agent_24
09-04-2010, 08:05 PM
I have the Phenom II X4 945, it's good and only about $250

nerd
09-04-2010, 08:09 PM
itts the 925 i would rather a higher one but they get a lot pricier
EDIT: i could do 945 like agent said, its only $12 more

nerd
10-04-2010, 09:07 AM
i did a bit of research last night and narrowed it down to about 3 builds. one is the playtek assasin gtr $1429, and the other two builds are based on the quote i posted last night with a few changes:
Build1

gigabyte p55 usb3- 215
kingston - 223
wd - 127
lg - 46
antek - 134
5850 - 472
amd phenom x4 945 - 232
tot: $1449


build 2
same but
i5 750
gigabyte gforce gtx 260 super oc hdmi 896 mb (less specs than the 5850)
tot: 1404

i realised that with my budget i could only do one good gfx card and cpu. theyre both not bad builds but agent 24 said that the 945 was good so i think the first build would be the best. post your opnions and any changes i need to make please. i will ask for a quote on both of these. which of the 3 is the best? also now i have to start thinking of a monitor and keyboard/mouse but i think a cheap one will do

Agent_24
10-04-2010, 09:40 AM
Doesn't look too bad but you'll need a different motherboard if you want to get the Phenom CPU, that Gigabyte P55 board is for Intel CPUs...

Radeon HD5850 is better than GTX260.

CPUs are probably both very similar.

What PSU are you getting to power all of that?

nerd
10-04-2010, 09:44 AM
its the antec earthwatts 650 W

which mobo do i need for the phenom cpu?

Speedy Gonzales
10-04-2010, 09:53 AM
An AMD mobo, that can take it

Ollie
10-04-2010, 11:16 AM
If i were you i'd get the i5 750, much better performance in almost all game benchmarks. And it completely destroys the the x4 in multimedia, multiitasking, desktop, other benchmarks.

It also has a lot more headroom for overclocking, and the x4 does not

SolMiester
10-04-2010, 11:59 AM
Doesn't look too bad but you'll need a different motherboard if you want to get the Phenom CPU, that Gigabyte P55 board is for Intel CPUs...

Radeon HD5850 is better than GTX260.

CPUs are probably both very similar.

What PSU are you getting to power all of that?

???.....The i5 will stomp on the x4 945

nerd
10-04-2010, 12:00 PM
im not an overclocker and the most multitasking i do would be to have music, internet and msn running and my dual core can do that fine at the moment and apparently games at the moment dont require much at all and i dont mind a bit of lag every once in a while, just need a cheap computer

nerd
10-04-2010, 12:06 PM
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=462580
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=390345
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=279997
i like the very top mobo or hte bottom one out of these three.

nerd
10-04-2010, 12:50 PM
got two solid builds now.
these are the lowest prices off pricespy.

Build 1
Antec EarthWatts 650W - 134
Kingston HyperX 4G Kit DDR3-1600 - 223
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB - 127
LG GH22NS50 22x SATA INTERNAL OEM - 46
AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0GHz - 232
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H - 190
Sapphire Radeon HD5850 HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 1GB - 472
Total: $1424


Build 2
Antec EarthWatts 650W - 134
Kingston HyperX 4G Kit DDR3-1600 - 223
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB - 127
LG GH22NS50 22x SATA INTERNAL OEM - 46
Intel Core i5 750 2.66 GH - 323
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 260 - 336
GIGABYTE P55-USB3 USB3.0 - 231

Total: $ 1420
i know if i put the sapphire radion onto the second build it will be the best of the builds iv posted here it will total to $1556

i need to think of mouse/keyboard and screens now any ideas?

oh yea sorry for the triple posting...lol

hueybot3000
10-04-2010, 03:49 PM
go with build 2 and add the 5850, you wont regret it.

For monitors, anything will do really, just make sure you get a good warranty with it. Mouse and keyboard is a personal preference. And depending on your budget id go with logitech.

I use a Logitech G5 (mouse) and Logitech G13 (keyboard), but they aint cheap

Sweep
10-04-2010, 04:44 PM
For a Monitor make sure you get a zero dead pixel type warranty.

nerd
10-04-2010, 06:03 PM
i was thinking of a logitech mouse, keyboards i dont really mind. i have no idea about lcd screens though. any suggestions? i wont need bigger that a 20-22" monitor. should i get one online?

Ollie
10-04-2010, 09:30 PM
Hey mate

I would go for build 2 aswel

Antec EarthWatts 650W - 134
Kingston HyperX 4G Kit DDR3-1600 - 223

Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB - 127 I would recommend a faster drive for your OS. The green is slow, because its intended for power saving not performance. Get Samsung F3, Seagate, WD black 1tb instead. Defiantley worth the few extra bucks

LG GH22NS50 22x SATA INTERNAL OEM - 46
Intel Core i5 750 2.66 GH - 323

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 260 - 336 NOO, THEYRE A BIG RIP OFF for the performance. The GTX260 is about the same as a 5770, and the 5770 is $270 from CL. Get a 5770/5830/5850 - it has DX11 too

GIGABYTE P55-USB3 USB3.0 - 231

Sum1
10-04-2010, 09:50 PM
if ur not going for crysis u can try these parts
Case -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=CHACLM2000 -$190.13
Motherboard -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=MBDGBM0116 -$111.38
CPU -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=CPUIT7500 -$190.13
GPU -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=VGAEVG0988 -$201.38
RAM -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=MEMKVR3005 -$196.88
HDD -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=HDDWD1912 -$167.63
Drive -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=DVWLGH209 -$50.63
PSU -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=PSUTHM0356 -$129.38

nerd
10-04-2010, 11:17 PM
sum1. ill check out the parts tomorrow my internets ran out and its really laggy at the moment it will reset tomorrow. i looked at the case though and realised i hadnt even thought of a case yet, its a pretty sweet looking case though. i calculated the total from the prices you put and i dont want to go that cheap.

Sum1
10-04-2010, 11:49 PM
try this

Case -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=CHACLM2000 -Cooler Master Storm Scout -$190.13
Motherboard -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=MBDGBM0220 -GIGABYTE H55M-UD2H -$190.13
CPU -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=CPUIT8750 -i5 750 2.66GHZ -$336.38
GPU -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=VGAXFX521 -XFX HD-577X-ZNFC Radeon 5770 1GB -$280.13
RAM -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=MEMKHX3081 -Kingston HyperX 4GB kit DDR3-1600 -$268.88
HDD -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=HDDWD1500 -Western Digital Carviar SE 3.5 500GB -$88.88
Drive -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=DVWLGH210 -LG GH22LS50 22X -$66.38
PSU -http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=PSUTHM0355 -Thermaltake Lite Power 600w -$111.38
TOTAL -$1532.29 CASH

Sweep
11-04-2010, 01:34 AM
sum1. ill check out the parts tomorrow my internets ran out and its really laggy at the moment it will reset tomorrow. i looked at the case though and realised i hadnt even thought of a case yet, its a pretty sweet looking case though. i calculated the total from the prices you put and i dont want to go that cheap.

When you finally work out what parts you can afford to buy and which parts etc I will put it all together for you provided you either arrive with all parts at my place ( Tokoroa ) or alternatively you pay my petrol from Tokoroa to elsewhere in the Waikato and return. I am suspecting that you will be going to Hamilton but I could be wrong.

If you are going to Hamilton you could just call into PBTech there and they will build one for you.

nerd
11-04-2010, 10:44 AM
i was thinking of getting one off pbtech but i dont have a car to drive there. and i think it would be too hard to bring it on the bus, my mate was gona take his car but now he cant so i was gona get them to deliver it. they only do cooler master fans and stuff tho. :(

Sweep
11-04-2010, 11:28 AM
i was thinking of getting one off pbtech but i dont have a car to drive there. and i think it would be too hard to bring it on the bus, my mate was gona take his car but now he cant so i was gona get them to deliver it. they only do cooler master fans and stuff tho. :(

What do you mean they only do coolermaster fans and stuff?

http://www.pbtechnz.com/

They will build you a computer to your specifications. You can go to the shop using a bus with a list of parts and some money and return back on a bus. They will courier the computer to you when built.

BTW. I don't work for them but I have bought many items over several years and have yet to be ripped off.

Or alternatively buy all the stuff yourself and get it shipped and build it yourself.

Ollie
11-04-2010, 11:50 AM
I would get this :D Prices from CL

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 32MB 7200rpm SATAII $149.00
COMBO DEAL: MB(12084): Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 Intel P55 i7/i5/i3 , CPU(9850): Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB , RAM(11848): Kingston HyperX 2x2GB DDR3-1600 Kit CL9 $750.78
LG GH22LS50 22x LightScribe Black SATA DVD Writer $75.00
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD5850 GDDR5 1GB PCI-E $479.00
CoolerMaster 650W eXtreme Power Plus SLi Silent 12CM Fan $139.00

TOTAL inc GST $1,592.79

OR

Swap the 5850 for a Sapphire ATI Radeon HD5830 GDDR5 1GB PCI-E
Comes to
TOTAL inc GST $1,482.7

nerd
11-04-2010, 12:34 PM
damn thats a nice build ollie. do they build systems as well? i would really like that, maybe change the psu but im fine with any brand as long as it works really, i should email them and ask if they can do it for me

EDIT: that is computer lounge right?

Sweep
11-04-2010, 12:43 PM
damn thats a nice build ollie. do they build systems as well? i would really like that, maybe change the psu but im fine with any brand as long as it works really, i should email them and ask if they can do it for me

EDIT: that is computer lounge right?

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/systems/systemdetail.asp?systypeid=4

Then modify to suit.

nerd
11-04-2010, 12:50 PM
doesnt let me modify cuz its a cheap system.

SolMiester
11-04-2010, 12:59 PM
GIGABYTE P55-USB3 USB3.0 - 231
Nice addition to the board!

Thebananamonkey
11-04-2010, 01:22 PM
This thread is moving in circles.

Someone said a little while ago that we're not here to hold your hand. +1 to that.

nerd
11-04-2010, 05:35 PM
think im gonna go with the one ollie showed, what case should i get with it? i have no idea about cases

nerd
11-04-2010, 05:40 PM
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=11518 i like how that looks is it a good one?
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=11517 im sure im gona get one of these if ppl say theyre good.

Thebananamonkey
11-04-2010, 06:02 PM
www.tomshardware.com

www.anandtech.com

These are good hardware review sites. There are lots others, but these are the best.
Go find some reviews there for whatever you're after.
We shouldn't have to make your mind for you.

nerd
11-04-2010, 06:14 PM
ok then. i couldnt find any of those cases on the sites, i dont really think the case matters but what does the "with fan controller" mean?

Sum1
11-04-2010, 07:44 PM
if u can afford it try get a coolermaster HAF case those will last u a longggggggg time

nerd
12-04-2010, 05:31 PM
hows the 5770 graphics card? i know the 5850 is a lot better, but is it an ok card?

Battleneter2
12-04-2010, 06:11 PM
hows the 5770 graphics card? i know the 5850 is a lot better, but is it an ok card?

The 5770 is a decent "mainstream" video card that will give you decent frame rates at 1680x1050 or lower in "most" of the latest games, or 1920x1080 if you sacrifice some eye candy.

AZ1
12-04-2010, 07:20 PM
For gaming you would want a AMD Procesor .
Check out the PB Tech website http://www.pbtech.co.nz/

nerd
12-04-2010, 08:26 PM
Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66Ghz 8MB LGA1156
ASUS P7P55D-E LX Intel P55 Core i7/i5/i3 DDR3 LGA1156
Kingston HyperX 2x2GB DDR3-1600 CL9 Kit
LG GH-22LS50 22X LightScribe Black SATA DVD Writer
Sapphire HD5670
CoolerMaster 650W eXtreme Power Plus Silent
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM SATA II
CoolerMaster CM Storm Scout Gaming Case no PSU

think im gonna go with this and upgrade my graphics next year. im sure its a course related cost XD. cant afford anything more atm :(

Sweep
12-04-2010, 09:21 PM
I'd be inclined to use a Seagate or Western Digital hard drive for the warranty.

qazwsxokmijn
12-04-2010, 09:40 PM
For gaming you would want a AMD Procesor .
Check out the PB Tech website http://www.pbtech.co.nz/
Wat?

Thebananamonkey
12-04-2010, 09:50 PM
Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66Ghz 8MB LGA1156
ASUS P7P55D-E LX Intel P55 Core i7/i5/i3 DDR3 LGA1156
Kingston HyperX 2x2GB DDR3-1600 CL9 Kit
LG GH-22LS50 22X LightScribe Black SATA DVD Writer
Sapphire HD5670
CoolerMaster 650W eXtreme Power Plus Silent
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM SATA II
CoolerMaster CM Storm Scout Gaming Case no PSU

think im gonna go with this and upgrade my graphics next year. im sure its a course related cost XD. cant afford anything more atm :(

Good computer.

About as useful for gaming as a cocktail umbrella in monsoon season.

nerd
13-04-2010, 01:19 PM
we dont do too intense gaming this year its just gonna be warcraft 3, halo 1 and a bit of starcraft1. even my current graphics can run them. dont know about mw2 though. lol, i shouldnt have bought it so early on..

Sum1
13-04-2010, 02:50 PM
mw2 specs arnt that high my friend has a 1.8ghz dual celeron and 7600 and runs at mid on 1024x768

nerd
13-04-2010, 04:59 PM
oh yea. runs pretty smooth on my friend's nvidia g40 gfx card as well

Ollie
13-04-2010, 08:01 PM
Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66Ghz 8MB LGA1156
ASUS P7P55D-E LX Intel P55 Core i7/i5/i3 DDR3 LGA1156
Kingston HyperX 2x2GB DDR3-1600 CL9 Kit
LG GH-22LS50 22X LightScribe Black SATA DVD Writer
Sapphire HD5670
CoolerMaster 650W eXtreme Power Plus Silent
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM SATA II
CoolerMaster CM Storm Scout Gaming Case no PSU

think im gonna go with this and upgrade my graphics next year. im sure its a course related cost XD. cant afford anything more atm :(

Uhh i'd get a HD 5770 atleast if its intended for gaming. You'l lbe disappointed with the 5670, it isnt very powerful and it doesnt even need pci connectors so you could run it off a 300W PSU easily, so the 650W is a massive overkill.

I'd downgrade the case to an el cheapo, like $80 ones. I don't see the point of a big shiny expensive cases, as they don't improve performance and only look cool for lan parties and stuff, but they may cool your components better than cheap cases. But that isn't really essential because you're not going to be overclocking.

Swap 5670 for 5770
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=10704

Swap scout for Ikonik EN1 (has the word gaming in it so it should have sufficient airflow) or the A10/A30 ($10 more with side window like the scout)
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=11382

Only $10 more than the scout and 5670

You could also downgrade the PSU to a 550W and get a better case

Thebananamonkey
13-04-2010, 11:20 PM
Ollie, don't bother. He'll just do what he wants to anyway.
There's no use trying to help him out.

In my mind, if someone asks for help then they are prepared to receive it.
He had several good answers eight pages ago. The fact that this thread is so long shows how much of a waste of time it was. Not to mention the 64vs32bit question, which two seconds of searching would have answered.

nerd
14-04-2010, 12:30 AM
well banana monkey, i cant really do anything about it if its out of my budget now is there? you dont have to try helping me out. im actually really grateful for the system ollie sent on the last page, it really helped me out and i sorted out most of the rest with the guy from computerlounge