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bluezone
20-03-2010, 04:05 PM
Hi there all.

I have 2 500gb hdd's here that im wanting to install in to a external case and use as a backup unit. have both hdds as copys of my comtent.

Whats the best way to do this.

At the moment Im using a WD 320gb mypassport and using a program called Memeo Pro. It backs up any new files or changed files when I plug in the hdd.
I brought the software when my boss brought his for work for are D-link-323 daul bay unit.

Link: http://www.memeo.com/business/backup_pro.php

Wanting to have a unit thats going to hold 2 hdds but maybe 3 or 4 hdds so I can upgrade later on.

My budget is $700.00 for this.

I like the look of the Lian Li EX-30Band the Lian-Li EX-50B but they are both out of stock.

Also I dont have any esata ports on pc.

Any help would be mint.

wainuitech
20-03-2010, 04:27 PM
All you should need is an external enclosure, have a look through some on offer at Ascent (http://www.ascent.co.nz/Category.aspx?majorcatID=18) - look through and some like this vantec (http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=380796) holds two HDDS.

Not a good idea to have all your backups in one place, so for the price of the units you could buy several, and still have change.

Something else to look at - NAS devices, most come with drives, but some you can get without them, The problem is once you start going above 2 drive bays its climbing out of your price range.

you can find them if you look around This here (http://www.einfo.co.nz/shop/product_info.php?name=MUSE%20NAS%20RAID%204BAY%20E NCLOSURE&products_id=17836) - 4 drive bays, JUST in your price range. NAS Home Page and specs (http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?S=1158&ID=1662#Tab0)

bluezone
20-03-2010, 05:11 PM
Yeh had a looky on ascent. also found a good site called datasquare.

Whatabout this unit.

http://www.datasquare.co.nz/index.php/default/external-hard-drives/multi-bay-tower-type/raidon-gearraid-2-bay-fw800-usb2-0-esata-raid-1-hard-drive-enclosure-with-lcd.html

http://www.datasquare.co.nz/index.php/default/external-hard-drives/multi-bay-tower-type/stardom-sohotank-4-bay-usb2-0-esata-external-drive-enclosure-hotswappable-non-raid.html

Dont really need NAS as there is only 1 pc thats going to be using the unit.

wainuitech
20-03-2010, 05:35 PM
Either of those look OK. Never used them ( or even heard of them) :D But they should be fine.

The reason I was suggesting not keeping every thing in One drive /Place, is if something fries, like the PC, and the drives attached that could go as well meaning every thing is lost.

Having separate backups in different locations kind of makes it unlikely that in the event of a failure, or something bad happening, to lose both would be real back luck.

For example I have nightly full PC backups to one server, and the data to another. Basically backed up in two locations - fully automated.

bluezone
20-03-2010, 06:07 PM
Thanks wainuitech.

Yeh was just thinking getting 2 of the Lian li EX-20B units and have 1 hooked up to pc for backup and then use the other as a backup that i hookup to pc like 1 time a week or month to do a full 2nd backup. What you think.

Lian-Li EX-20B
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=293&cl_index=12&sc_index=42&ss_index=115

wainuitech
20-03-2010, 07:34 PM
Lian are a good well known brand so that's a plus.

And the procedure you mentioned should be fine.:thumbs:

Others may say different, but at least you are doing backups, Sooner or later ALL computers fail -- and Murphy law dictates as soon as you talk about it, it happens :lol:

I got a job Next week - the person, her PC is playing up, possible faulty board or HDD - Asked her if she had been backing up all her important work stuff ( like I suggested months ago) - she said shes been meaning to get around to it - I said do it NOW!!! as tomorrow maybe to late.

bluezone
20-03-2010, 08:49 PM
Yeh I always backup but only got my WD 320gb mypassport at moment so wantedd to sort a buckup unit out. getting to much files to fit on the little pocket drive. :)

I did find a nice LAN unit.
http://www.datasquare.co.nz/index.php/default/external-hard-drives/3-5-desk-top-drives/raidon-2-bay-gigabit-lan-hard-drive-enclosure.html

bluezone
20-03-2010, 10:29 PM
If i had a dual bay external hdd for backup would raid1 be good on it? mirrored copy of drives also have another offsite backup drive.

bluezone
21-03-2010, 02:47 PM
Anyone using a HP StorageWorks X500 Data Vault server.

http://usingwindowshomeserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/HiX510Hero.jpg

wainuitech
21-03-2010, 03:28 PM
Thats basically HP, hyped up version of Windows Home Server, but in a fancy purpose designed Case.

I have two WHS PC's / Servers, and thats what Does the full nightly backups of all PC's. One had the connector software going to it, so it does the back up, the other is just used as a storage server. The only limitations on Drives is the number of connections on the motherboard.

The Servers them Selves are just standard cases with WHS as the OS, which was built from a highly stripped down Server 2003 with added extras.

The connections are Via Ethernet -- A Review of it (http://www.zdnet.com.au/hp-storageworks-x500-data-vault-339298912.htm) and A few more specs (http://www.homeserverland.com/wiki/w/whs/hp-storageworks-x500-data-vault.aspx)

bluezone
21-03-2010, 04:44 PM
Thats.

The Acer Easystore Windows Home Server NAS device. dont sound to bad.

bluezone
25-03-2010, 12:24 AM
After spending the last 2 nights surfing the net and looking at videos, I have ordered the hp storageworks x510 data vault . Just looking at hdd's for it now.

Any ideas on what hdd's to look at. Wanting 1tb and bigger hdd's. I think 4x 1tb hdd's would be sweet.

Thanks

bluezone
26-03-2010, 12:55 AM
Right I have ordered.

1x HP Storageworks x510 data vault NAS server, 1tb hdd included.

4x Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARS Hard Disk Drive, 1000GB, 5400-7200rpm, 64MB Cache, SATA-2,

Total of: $1,722.47

Now I have to sort out what parts im going to get to build my system with to set beside the HP NAS server.

So I have $2278 for my system build.

wainuitech
26-03-2010, 08:23 AM
You'll like the unit, they run headless, no KB/Mouse/monitor, you control then Via a connector software from other PC's on a LAN or connected to them. Bit of Guff (http://www.homeserverhacks.com/2009/10/hp-storageworks-x510-data-vault.html) - one of my WHS while it does have a KB/Mouse/LCD connected via a KMV switch (server sits under the bench), they are never used apart from the real odd time I have to do some maintenance on it. Normally it just "works".

bluezone
26-03-2010, 08:32 AM
Yeh I read reviews and watched lots of videos about them. They look easy to use and are small. :) I seen there is a addon part you can get that plugs into the mobo and gives you a VGA mouse and keyboard ports. Dont need it.

What you using your unit for?