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linw
16-02-2010, 09:26 AM
Convinced myself that Adobe was just getting far too big and bloated so switched to Foxit (again - tried and rejected earlier).

Now I am not so sure. Foxit is just too pushy and sneaky with its almost forceware. Installed it onto a friend's machine but the second day after he had the whole damn trial paid-for suite installed, including the bloody ASK toolbar! I just feel too uneasy with these buggers.

Anything else?? Come back Adobe, all is forgiven? Yes, I know, you still have to dodge the ASK toolbar on installation but at least they don't push it at every update.

Frankly, I don't like either but one has to have a reader.

Speedy Gonzales
16-02-2010, 09:35 AM
Thats why its got a custom install. If you dont select it, ASK toolbar WILL install. I've never had any probs. The only time anything in it will install, is when I select it

FAB
16-02-2010, 09:40 AM
Agree with SG re foxit - just do a custom install, untick the rubbish and go.

I've installed it on literally hundreds of machines and never had anyone want to actually go back to Acrobat Reader...

sal
16-02-2010, 09:42 AM
Sumatra PDF (http://blog.kowalczyk.info/software/sumatrapdf/) hands down for me. It's only 1.4 MB of portable, open source freeware and over the years it has opened every PDF I've thrown at it no problem.

Morgenmuffel
16-02-2010, 09:48 AM
anyone tried Pokatreader

http://www.pokat.com/

I like the flip style (with a widesreen monitor), but I haven't got around to using it or trying it, on ye olde to do list

Sweep
16-02-2010, 10:05 AM
I dropped Adobe some time back and I use Foxit. I like the search over multiple PDFs for one thing.

linw
16-02-2010, 10:10 AM
It's not the first install that is the problem. I know how to untick a box. The problem is when it does an auto update and presents a naive user with options they don't understand, like, install every damn thing but in not so many words. If I am supporting someone I don't need the crap installs I have just seen.

Thanks Sal and Nigel. I will look at these. Pokat looks interesting.

Sweep
16-02-2010, 10:21 AM
Updates in Foxit are turned on by default. When you install why not just turn off this feature?

I know how if you need or want to know.

Speedy Gonzales
16-02-2010, 11:12 AM
I've never seen it autoupdate. If they dont know what it is, dont select it. Simple

Sweep
16-02-2010, 11:25 AM
Open Foxit > Help > Check for updates > Advanced > Untick the auto update box.

So easy as the OP knows how to untick a box.

linw
16-02-2010, 12:12 PM
Had another look at the update screen and confess it isn't that easy to install everything! Darned if I know how he did it.

And, yes, I subsequently found the Preferences box to turn off update checking.

So I am calming down and will continue with Foxit as it is a very good reader.

Thanks for the replies. 99.9% of them are appreciated as always.

Sweep
16-02-2010, 12:54 PM
Good to know it is sorted.

pkm
16-02-2010, 01:28 PM
Ive done the same thing. Adobe reader 8 > foxit>sumatra when on XP. Cant stand waiting 9seconds just to open a pdf.

kahawai chaser
16-02-2010, 04:40 PM
I think Google Docs can read/upload PDF's, and also save to down load other formats (word, excel) as PDF's.

gary67
16-02-2010, 06:09 PM
Sumatra PDF (http://blog.kowalczyk.info/software/sumatrapdf/) hands down for me. It's only 1.4 MB of portable, open source freeware and over the years it has opened every PDF I've thrown at it no problem.

I was using Sumatra and still do on my portable apps, but had a problem couple of years ago where it wouldn't open PDF's from air NZ. It's probably been fixed by now but have got used to Foxit as it has the FF plugin

Erayd
16-02-2010, 10:43 PM
I usually use Okular, and occasionally Xpdf. Both are Linux apps, although Okular should have a Windows port, as it's part of KDE 4.

sal
17-02-2010, 01:37 PM
I was using Sumatra and still do on my portable apps, but had a problem couple of years ago where it wouldn't open PDF's from air NZ. It's probably been fixed by now but have got used to Foxit as it has the FF pluginSumatra PDF 0.8 and lower used to use two different PDF rendering engines to work more reliably (you could change which one under "View") but it's now settled with MuPDF (http://ccxvii.net/mupdf/) I guess due to improved compatibility. When you had your problem, a rendering engine change could possibly have solved it.

I also see that MuPDF has a nice and lite PDF add-on for Firefox (http://ccxvii.net/mupdf/plugin/install.html) (800KB) but I prefer downloading a PDF rather than viewing it in a browser. I wonder if the Adobe Reader install has hit half a GB yet.

ad_267
17-02-2010, 07:17 PM
+1 for Okular. You need to download the KDE installer from http://windows.kde.org/download.php and then you can select which KDE packages to install. It will either just be called okular or could be under kdegraphics.

Evince is less featured but also has a Windows download at http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Downloads

I've only used both apps on Linux though so don't know what they're like on Windows.

Grimy
17-02-2010, 07:23 PM
I've been a Foxit user for quite a while, but a couple of pdfs wouldn't open the other day (can't remember the error message), so tried Cool PDF Reader.
Seems okay so far.

Chikara
19-02-2010, 01:35 AM
I've been a Foxit user for quite a while, but a couple of pdfs wouldn't open the other day (can't remember the error message), so tried Cool PDF Reader.
Seems okay so far.

I also had a few pdf's that caused Foxit to crash before Xmas. Forwarded them to my work email, 'cuz Adobe Reader is installed at work, and they opened fine.
(And they were definitely clean pdf files, they were from my bank)

I did log the crash with Foxit, they gave me a ticket number and did contact me to ask for clarification on something, but I never heard anything back after that about it. And it's not fixed now, three months later.

So yes, Foxit is good, but still not great.

sarel
19-02-2010, 07:27 AM
I installed Foxit this week because I had problems with Adobe as well. I did not get the options to tick or untick, though, even though I selected Custom. Will see how it goes.

sarel

Chilling_Silence
19-02-2010, 09:02 AM
+1 for FoxIT, without Ask toolbar, and with Updates turned off.

I've not installed Adobe Reader on a machine in years, since about v7 when it started getting HUGE.

pkm
20-02-2010, 09:08 AM
I dont mind adobe reader 7 so much,it opens in half a second like I expect.Ofcoure itl be full of security holes compared to reader 9