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DeSade
08-02-2010, 11:44 PM
Well its that time again so might as well get some good advice to start me off.

I am querying a new case in another thread but I need to hit more meaty topics in this one.

Motherboard
P55 or X58, read a few reviews but can't see much difference between them
Socket 1366 or 1156?
Brand? (not ASUS)

CPU
i7
What else is important?

Ram
8gb 4x 2gb
Speed?
Brand?

PSU
I have a Corsair 750w
Do I need a bigger one?

These things move faster than I do and every time I upgrade I find myself playing catch-up, any help appreciated.

qazwsxokmijn
09-02-2010, 12:48 AM
For future proofing, X58 for sure. Plus X58 can provide 2x full x16 PCIE lanes. Three channel memory, as opposed to P55's dual channel.

CPU.....just get an i7 920 with the X58.

RAM - preferably 1600, Supertalent, Corsair, OCZ, Kingston, all good.

PSU is plenty enough.

DeSade
09-02-2010, 01:27 AM
Any comment on MB brand?
I was looking at Gigabyte and DFI LanParty but I don't really have any idea yet

Oh and before someone asks budget is about 3k

pctek
09-02-2010, 07:57 AM
Gigabyte or ASUS.

DeSade
09-02-2010, 08:07 AM
ASUS is not an option.
First a Motherboard failure due to crap drivers when I started my last build and recently a graphics card failure, both ASUS.

Little wary of them now.

DeSade
09-02-2010, 06:53 PM
Ok so I have a preliminary list, please feel free to comment.
Decided to leave the current computer as it is and build a new one from scratch with the exception of the fairly new graphics card I brought and optical drives which will come with me to the new machine.

Gigabyte GA-EX58-Extreme
Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz Socket 1366 Box
Corsair Dominator GT DDR3 PC12800/1600MHz CL8 4x2GB
Corsair CMPSU-1000HX 1000W
Case to be decided.

I would like some recommendations for a after-market cooling solution for the CPU, something that is quiet as possible. I am not looking at going for water cooling in this build.

Sweep
09-02-2010, 07:17 PM
I take it that you are going to run a 64 bit O/S.

DeSade
09-02-2010, 07:36 PM
I take it that you are going to run a 64 bit O/S.

Win 7 Ultimate 64bit

I forgot to state above that I would like recommendations on Fan Controllers also please.

Speedy Gonzales
09-02-2010, 07:42 PM
Something like this (http://www.modster-pc.co.nz/shop/index.php?cPath=42_97)

DeSade
09-02-2010, 07:47 PM
Awesome site Speedy, looking for more personal recommendations than another site to troll through LOL.

Have you used any of these?

Speedy Gonzales
09-02-2010, 07:56 PM
Or computerlounge (http://www.dtconline.co.nz/components/componentlist.asp?t=3&parttypeid=295&b=&s=1).

Nope havent used any of them. Was going to get one a while ago, but dont really need another card reader (the ones that have one). Altho, I've only got 2 fans in this which is enough. Why bother with a controller.

stormdragon
09-02-2010, 07:57 PM
How many fans are you looking to control? Do you want any extras like temp monitoring?

I have one of these (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=FANZAL12867) in my CM690 and am quite happy with it.

Any reason your not going triple channel with the RAM?

stormdragon
09-02-2010, 07:59 PM
Or computerlounge (http://www.dtconline.co.nz/components/componentlist.asp?t=3&parttypeid=295&b=&s=1).

Wrong shop Speedy :)

DeSade
09-02-2010, 08:02 PM
How many fans are you looking to control? Do you want any extras like temp monitoring?

I have one of these (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?item=FANZAL12867) in my CM690 and am quite happy with it.

Any reason your not going triple channel with the RAM?

The cases I have had have not been great so I needed more fans for air flow.
I plan to get a good case this time so it may not be so necessary but I don't know.

Whats the skinny on triple channel ram?
Any recommendations on specific makes and models?

Speedy Gonzales
09-02-2010, 08:11 PM
Oops CL have similar fans as well

DeSade
10-02-2010, 06:00 PM
I requested a quote from one of my favorite PC stores and apparently the Motherboard I like is obsolete.

So I am also looking for board suggestions. :)

DeSade
10-02-2010, 08:37 PM
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Intel X58 Socket B (LGA 1366) ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i7-950 3.06Ghz 8MB Cache *Quad Core* 2000Mhz Socket B (LGA1366) CPU
Corsair Dominator 12GB Triple Channel Kit 6x 2GB PC12800 DDR3 (1600Mhz) Memory CL8-8-8-24
Corsair CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX Power Supply Unit
Corsair Obsidian Series 800D (Black) Full-Tower Case NO Power Supply Unit *Front Audio, USB & Firewire

This is build 2.0
Only thing I am missing now is the CPU cooler, suggestions are most welcome.

whellington
10-02-2010, 11:54 PM
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Intel X58 Socket B (LGA 1366) ATX Motherboard
Intel Core i7-950 3.06Ghz 8MB Cache *Quad Core* 2000Mhz Socket B (LGA1366) CPU
Corsair Dominator 12GB Triple Channel Kit 6x 2GB PC12800 DDR3 (1600Mhz) Memory CL8-8-8-24
Corsair CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX Power Supply Unit
Corsair Obsidian Series 800D (Black) Full-Tower Case NO Power Supply Unit *Front Audio, USB & Firewire

This is build 2.0
Only thing I am missing now is the CPU cooler, suggestions are most welcome.

1. 1000W is overkill for your setup unless you have 2 or more high end cards. A high watt psu tend to have lower efficiency when supplying lower wattage (if not all watt is used). What is your graphic card setup? You might not need to upgrade from the 750W. - the i7 doesn't use much power anyways.

2. Get the i7 920 instead of the i7 950 as the price of the i7 950 doesn't justify the small performance increase. You can also overclock the 920 beyond the 950 clock speed. For a CPU cooler i recommend the PROLIMATECH MEGASHADOW (http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=10612) or the Corsair H50 (http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=10297).

3. With the money saved from getting the i7 920 instead of the 950 you could get an SSD which give you loads more system performance. I recommend the Intel SSD Series (http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=9890)

DeSade
11-02-2010, 07:18 AM
I am leaving the 750 in the machine its in so I have to buy a new PSU anyway. I just went for the biggest.

I am not a fan of overclocking, don't have any experience with it and my machines tend to go onto 2nd much longer lives after they have left me.

I thought about a SSD and figured it probably wasn't worth it, are they really that good?

Thanks for the cooler suggestions :)

qazwsxokmijn
11-02-2010, 07:34 AM
Even if you're not overclocking the difference between a 2.66GHz and 3.06GHz i7 won't be too noticeable, and the $400 difference is NOT worth the 400MHz extra.

SSDs are very good. I have it myself, but still think it's a luxury item. However I would rather get an i7 920 than a 950 and use the $400 to spend on a good SSD.

Sweep
11-02-2010, 09:56 AM
If you are not overclocking why not use a stock CPU cooler?

pkm
11-02-2010, 12:15 PM
Im not sure why people are getting 80gb SSD.
Win7+games will fit on a $240 40gb SSD then get a 1.5tB HDD ? Or is win7 larger than I think

DeSade
13-02-2010, 01:27 PM
Build 3.0

Intel Core i7-920 2.66Ghz 8MB Cache *Quad Core* 2000Mhz Socket B (LGA1366) CPU + Fan Retail Boxed (BX80601920)

Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Intel X58 Socket B (LGA 1366) ATX Motherboard

Corsair Dominator 12GB Triple Channel Kit 6x 2GB PC12800 DDR3 (1600Mhz) Memory CL8-8-8-24 (CMD12GX3M6A1600C8)

Intel X25-M Mainstream Solid State Drive - 34nm Product Line - Solid state drive - 80GB - internal - 2.5" - SATA-300 (SSDSA2MH080G2C1902383)

Corsair CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX Power Supply Unit

LIAN-LI LANCOOL DRAGONLORD PC-K62B BLACK INTERIOR W/WINDOW

Opinions and suggestions please.

DeSade
01-05-2010, 11:22 PM
Just thought I would update you all with the final build.

The Beast Lives.
Final Specs.



Intel Core i7-920 2.66Ghz 8MB Cache *Quad Core* 2000Mhz Socket B (LGA1366) CPU + Fan Retail Boxed
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Intel X58 Socket B (LGA 1366) ATX Motherboard
Corsair Dominator 12GB Triple Channel Kit 6x 2GB PC12800 DDR3 (1600Mhz) Memory CL8-8-8-24
Intel X25-M Mainstream Solid State Drive - 34nm Product Line - Solid state drive - 80GB - internal - 2.5" - SATA-300
Corsair CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX Power Supply Unit
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 - Hard drive - 1 TB - internal - 3.5" - SATA-300 - 7200 rpm - buffer: 32 MB x4
XFX Radeon HD 5970 Black Edition - Graphics adapter - 2 GPUs - Radeon HD 5970 - PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 2 GB GDDR5 - Digital Visual Interface (DVI)



Prolimatech Mega Shadow - Processor heatsink - ( Socket 775, Socket 1156, Socket 1366 ) - 120 mm

(So far having trouble fitting the heatsink, its a little big, I think I can make it work thou)

Sweep
01-05-2010, 11:27 PM
So did you manage to fit the heatsink and all 12 Gigs RAM?

DeSade
01-05-2010, 11:34 PM
So did you manage to fit the heatsink and all 12 Gigs RAM?

For now no, its got the stock cooler on it, but as I was thinking about it later I realized the mounting bracket is a square, it means I will have to rethink my push/pull fan ideas to get it working but it might fit if rotated 180 degrees. Going to play with it tomorrow.

qazwsxokmijn
02-05-2010, 11:34 AM
You can take off the fins on the Dominators, did you know that?

qazwsxokmijn
02-05-2010, 12:08 PM
Oh and btw, pictures or it's all a lie!!!

DeSade
02-05-2010, 12:09 PM
I didn't know that.
I have reinstalled the shadow the other way and it fits fine but the fins are still in the way of the push/pull fan.

Removing them might just give it enough clearance.
Trouble is, I do not have anything that will fit those little black screw things.

DeSade
02-05-2010, 02:07 PM
With qaz's suggestion everything now fits.

Pics.

Empty Case
http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Casebefore.JPG

Motherboard
http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Mother_board1272762046.jpg

This is the motherboard with the Mega Shadow fitted to begin with, you can clearly see it is covering two ram slots.
http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Wrongway.JPG

Here is the finished inside
http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Finished.JPG

And finally with the side on, pity the lights to not photograph well
http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Side_on.JPG