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Sweep
07-01-2010, 01:44 PM
This makes interesting reading.

http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/maori-leader-bans-quothate-flagquot-waitangi/5/34849

xyz823
07-01-2010, 01:55 PM
I wonder how many Maori people actually care? Or is it just a few who are making a huge song and dance about it.

Speedy Gonzales
07-01-2010, 02:06 PM
True I dont care. I wouldnt care if it was red white and blue, purple, black, orange.

Roscoe
07-01-2010, 02:14 PM
I wonder how many Maori people actually care? Or is it just a few who are making a huge song and dance about it.

Exactly. It is always only a small minority that make the loudest noises. I feel quite certain that the majority of maoris can play quietly amongst each other.

Most maoris - and Europeans - could not care less. These noisy few should stop pissing about and go and do something useful with their lives - if that's not too difficult.

Which reminds me: What are you doing on New Zealand's National Protest Day? February 6th is just another Saturday so apart from the noisy protesting few it will be just another boring Saturday. Nothing much changes, eh?

It's such a pity, really. The Treaty of Waitangi was intended as a document to bring the two races together but it is being used as an instrument to drive the maoris and everyone else further apart.:illogical

Speedy Gonzales
07-01-2010, 02:18 PM
Xmas, NY, boxing day is another day as well. I dont really care about these either. What exactly can you do on Waitangi day, if youre nowhere near it?? Jump up and down, and do the haka :lol:

Cicero
07-01-2010, 02:33 PM
This makes interesting reading.

http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/maori-leader-bans-quothate-flagquot-waitangi/5/34849

What did you find of interest in that rubbish.?

xyz823
07-01-2010, 02:35 PM
Xmas, NY, boxing day is another day as well. I dont really care about these either. What exactly can you do on Waitangi day, if youre nowhere near it?? Jump up and down, and do the haka :lol:

I couldn't give rats ass. As far as I'm concerned those days are just another day to get time and a half at work!! (As long as its not a Saturday...Grrrrr)

xyz823
07-01-2010, 02:37 PM
It's such a pity, really. The Treaty of Waitangi was intended as a document to bring the two races together but it is being used as an instrument to drive the maoris and everyone else further apart.:illogical

The Maoris just use it to bully us white people into giving them free stuff (uni, more benefits, specific "maori" orientated courses etc) and get us to do what they want.

Cicero
07-01-2010, 02:48 PM
The Maoris just use it to bully us white people into giving them free stuff (uni, more benefits, specific "maori" orientated courses etc) and get us to do what they want.

The only way to stop a bully,is to stand up to them and I doubt Hone Key is the one to do that,bring back Brash I say.

Speedy Gonzales
07-01-2010, 02:49 PM
The Maoris just use it to bully us white people into giving them free stuff (uni, more benefits, specific "maori" orientated courses etc) and get us to do what they want.

Well dont know about that. I did a course yrs ago, and they tried to force me into doing actions songs and all that crap (I'm maori). I refused, because I didnt go to this course to do action songs. In the end they kicked me out. Sometime later, I found out that I should have told the labour dept. The place would have been prosecuted

Cicero
07-01-2010, 03:10 PM
Well dint know about that. I did a course yrs ago, and they tried to force me into doing actions songs and all that crap (I'm Maori). I refused, because I didn't go to this course to do action songs. In the end they kicked me out. Sometime later, I found out that I should have told the labour dept. The place would have been prosecuted

What you speak of applies in lots of gov. departments,hospitals,teaching college etc and is what, like you I object to,ramming down throat stuff.

lakewoodlady
07-01-2010, 03:14 PM
Well dont know about that. I did a course yrs ago, and they tried to force me into doing actions songs and all that crap (I'm maori). I refused, because I didnt go to this course to do action songs. In the end they kicked me out. Sometime later, I found out that I should have told the labour dept. The place would have been prosecuted

Ha ha. I did a course with Te Wananga o Aotearoa and it was the other way around, I wanted to do the singing and action songs and go on the marae, but they didn't want me! I am pakeha LOL!!!


LL :lol:

Speedy Gonzales
07-01-2010, 03:33 PM
lol. Well the Govt WERE'NT as bad. At least, if you have / had a valid reason not to go, they accepted it. They didnt force me to go. If I wanted to do action songs etc, then I would have started at an early age. Or joined the patea maori club lol. But thats not my scene. If I want to do something, I'll do it when I'm ready. Not when someone tells me to. Mine was a computer course (well most of it was accounting stuff).

Cicero
07-01-2010, 03:37 PM
Ha ha. I did a course with Te Wananga o Aotearoa and it was the other way around, I wanted to do the singing and action songs and go on the marae, but they didn't want me! I am pakeha LOL!!!


LL :lol:

That should tell you what type of people you are dealing with.(Ignorant)

kenj
07-01-2010, 03:49 PM
25 years ago I went on a school day visit to a Marae with my daughters class. After being harangued in maori for at least 15 minutes, I got up and walked out - shaking my head in disbelief!!

Sat in the car and read a book and listened to the radio till it was all over. One of the teachers, a maori guy, said he always had the urge to do the same, but being a teacher and a maori he felt he could not.

Never been near one since.

Ken

prefect
07-01-2010, 04:00 PM
I was at a marae for a wedding, one of mates married a maori in Rotorua. At the welcome onto the marae there were these long form chairs outside for people to sit on. I was drunk and fell backwards flipping over the form chair and knocking down the ones behind me domino effect. Hurt some peoples knees that needed bandaging.
Needless to say I was escorted off the marae grounds so drove to pub still went to wedding and after match back on the marae later on.
I thought I was going to be in buku crap but some people said the welcome went on for ions and they wished they were me.

xyz823
07-01-2010, 04:20 PM
I was at a marae for a wedding, one of mates married a maori in Rotorua. At the welcome onto the marae there were these long form chairs outside for people to sit on. I was drunk and fell backwards
Needless to say I was escorted off the marae grounds so drove to pub still went to wedding and after match back on the marae later on.
I thought I was going to be in buku crap but some people said the welcome went on for ions and they wished they were me.

YOU SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN DRIVING. YOU WERE DRUNK.

prefect
07-01-2010, 04:21 PM
Was around 1977 when drink driving was a sport not a crime.

xyz823
07-01-2010, 04:22 PM
Was around 1977 when drinking driving was a sport not a crime.

Odd definition of sport...

prefect
07-01-2010, 04:23 PM
Odd times, they had flared jeans.

Sweep
07-01-2010, 05:22 PM
What did you find of interest in that rubbish.?

What I found interesting is the fact that the various tribes can't seem to agree even after so called consultation.

xyz823
07-01-2010, 05:26 PM
Odd times, they had flared jeans.

Skinny Jeans are just as bad...

Sweep
07-01-2010, 05:34 PM
Ha ha. I did a course with Te Wananga o Aotearoa and it was the other way around, I wanted to do the singing and action songs and go on the marae, but they didn't want me! I am pakeha LOL!!!


LL :lol:

But you get extra credits for going on a noho marae which of course has nothing to do with a computer course.

Cicero
07-01-2010, 05:38 PM
What I found interesting is the fact that the various tribes can't seem to agree even after so called consultation.

Try to remember,it was ever thus.

lakewoodlady
07-01-2010, 08:12 PM
But you get extra credits for going on a noho marae which of course has nothing to do with a computer course.

Well, it was a computer course, but in the end came out with no certificate. didn't complete it, because at about the same time the Te Wangana was being investigated for inappropriation of funds. However, I know that I did complete computing level 3 despite the infighting.

LL

Sweep
07-01-2010, 08:21 PM
Well, it was a computer course, but in the end came out with no certificate. didn't complete it, because at about the same time the Te Wangana was being investigated for inappropriation of funds. However, I know that I did complete computing level 3 despite the infighting.

LL

Makes two of us but now I am doing the same course at Waiariki.
Te Wananga did not do the marking in time.

KarameaDave
07-01-2010, 09:08 PM
That is truly appalling, to complete a course and not receive your certificate is fraud on their part!!

royaloaks
07-01-2010, 09:33 PM
$91,000 for travel costs, catering, hire of meeting places etc. 6 weeks of talking and arm waving, and still they cant agree 100%. Just another waste of taxpayers money, Mr Key and Billy Boy English tells us its going to have to be a tough budget! Spare me.

KenESmith
07-01-2010, 09:37 PM
Simple Question:
Do we want all residents of New Zealand working and living together making New Zealand a prosperous and successful nation in the 21st century, or would we rather work hell bent to divide the country and so bring it down to third world economic status?

royaloaks
07-01-2010, 09:48 PM
Simple Question:
Do we want all residents of New Zealand working and living together making New Zealand a prosperous and successful nation in the 21st century, or would we rather work hell bent to divide the country and so bring it down to third world economic status? That would be too simple for white race cringers and pea brains from the other side. Neither one has heard of the word, Commonsense!