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BasketballOSU
10-12-2009, 10:47 AM
When I open the task manager and look at all my running processes, there are always about 25-30 "programs" running in the background, even when I have nothing in open windows.

I can't even begin to tell which programs are needed to keep Windows running and which aren't.

I want to free up as much memory as possible to make games run better.

Also, it would be nice if I could keep the unneeded programs from running in the first place on startup rather than just ending them each time I want to free up the RAM.

I'm not even sure where to begin on this, any suggestion or thoughts?

soulhound
10-12-2009, 10:58 AM
Oh oh I want to know too... I have played with msconfig? kind of thing and regedit etc many times but never once produced result better than a RAM upgrade!:(

nofam
10-12-2009, 11:03 AM
It's worth nothing that the processes you see in Task Manager aren't all 'programs' as such; if there's nothing running in the Applications tab, most of the processes you see will be system processes and services, which usually need to be there.

Having said that, some programs such as Norton Antivirus, are notorious for having a heavy footprint, which is why we recommend alternatives.

Probably the best thing is to post a hijackthis log here, which lists all your startup entries. We can have a look and advise what you can remove safely.

:thumbs:

ronyville
10-12-2009, 11:05 AM
What OS have you got? XP/Vista? msconfig is one way to keep programs from starting up at logon. Putting in more RAM is always a good option but depends on how many slots you have and what is the max RAM your motherboard supports. In Vista there's a service called Superfetch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfetch#SuperFetch).. you could disable that but it is recommended to have it running as it does speed up the PC with commonly used programs. Hope this helps.

Renmoo
10-12-2009, 11:14 AM
You could try turning off some of the services from running when the computer has booted up:

Start > Run > "services.msc"

Turn off with caution.

pctek
10-12-2009, 11:34 AM
You could try turning off some of the services from running when the computer has booted up:

Start > Run > "services.msc"

Turn off with caution.

Helps if you know which ones:

Google Black Viper - they provide a list for the various versions of Windows, what they are, a cautious approach and a lets disable tons of them approach. Read that and with a bit of common sense you can do just fine.

Common sense - for instance if you use Wireless obviously you want it left on, if not, disable it and so on.


Msconfig is for disabling startup programs and if you have done all that and have plenty of RAM and it still runs like a sick snail, then it's time for a format and fresh install.

BasketballOSU
10-12-2009, 01:15 PM
Good idea on the Hijack this. I am running Windows XP.

Here is my logfile:

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 6:13:02 PM, on 12/9/2009
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\EvtEng.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\S24EvMon.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\WLKeeper.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ZcfgSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\wltrysvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\bcmwltry.exe
C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Intel\Wireless\Bin\1XConfig.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehRecvr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehSched.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\FrameworkService.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\Mcshield.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\VsTskMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\NICCONFIGSVC\NICCONFIGSVC.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\RegSrvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Terminator\sp_rsser.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray.exe
C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehmsas.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLTRAY.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ifrmewrk.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\DVDAudio\CTDVDDET.EXE
C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\Surround Mixer\CTSysVol.exe
C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\SB Performance Utility\CTPowUti.exe
C:\WINDOWS\CTHELPER.EXE
C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\SHSTAT.EXE
C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\UdaterUI.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DLA\DLACTRLW.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RunDLL32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\McTray.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Webshots\Webshots.scr
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe

R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
O1 - Hosts: ::1 localhost
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ehTray] C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Dell Wireless Manager UI] C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLTRAY
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IntelWireless] C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ifrmewrk.exe /tf Intel PROSet/Wireless
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /installquiet
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NVHotkey] rundll32.exe nvHotkey.dll,Start
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTDVDDET] "C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\DVDAudio\CTDVDDET.EXE"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTSysVol] C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\Surround Mixer\CTSysVol.exe /r
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTPerformanceUtility] C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\SB Performance Utility\CTPowUti.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ShStatEXE] "C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\SHSTAT.EXE" /STANDALONE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [McAfeeUpdaterUI] "C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\UdaterUI.exe" /StartedFromRunKey
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DLA] C:\WINDOWS\System32\DLA\DLACTRLW.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RunDLL32.exe NvMCTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SetDefaultMIDI] MIDIDef.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SUPERAntiSpyware] C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [EA Core] "C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\EADM\Core.exe" -silent
O4 - Startup: Webshots.lnk = C:\Program Files\Webshots\Launcher.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://www.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1202935117843
O20 - Winlogon Notify: !SASWinLogon - C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SASWINLO.dll
O23 - Service: Ad-Aware 2007 Service (aawservice) - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe
O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
O23 - Service: Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd - C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
O23 - Service: EvtEng - Intel Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\EvtEng.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee Framework Service (McAfeeFramework) - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\FrameworkService.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee McShield (McShield) - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\Mcshield.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee Task Manager (McTaskManager) - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\VsTskMgr.exe
O23 - Service: NICCONFIGSVC - Dell Inc. - C:\Program Files\Dell\NICCONFIGSVC\NICCONFIGSVC.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
O23 - Service: RegSrvc - Intel Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\RegSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Spectrum24 Event Monitor (S24EventMonitor) - Intel Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\S24EvMon.exe
O23 - Service: Spyware Terminator Realtime Shield Service (sp_rssrv) - Crawler.com - C:\Program Files\Spyware Terminator\sp_rsser.exe
O23 - Service: WLANKEEPER - Intel® Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\WLKeeper.exe
O23 - Service: Dell Wireless WLAN Tray Service (wltrysvc) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wltrysvc.exe

--
End of file - 7370 bytes

Speedy Gonzales
10-12-2009, 01:22 PM
You havent got that many in startup

These dont have to be in startup

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTDVDDET] "C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\DVDAudio\CTDVDDET.EXE"

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTSysVol] C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\Surround Mixer\CTSysVol.exe /r

O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SUPERAntiSpyware] C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware.exe

O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background

O4 - Startup: Webshots.lnk = C:\Program Files\Webshots\Launcher.exe

nofam
10-12-2009, 01:31 PM
I'd suggest you get rid of McAfee too; it's very resource hungry much like Norton Antivirus, and not that good to be honest.

Suggest you get NOD32 as a replacement.

To uninstall McAfee, download and run their removal tool from here (http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe)

pctek
10-12-2009, 01:33 PM
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe

C:\WINDOWS\System32\DLA\DLACTRLW.EXE

C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe

C:\PROGRA~1\Webshots\Webshots.scr
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe


O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ehTray] C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray.exe


O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER.EXE


O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DLA] C:\WINDOWS\System32\DLA\DLACTRLW.EXE

O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SetDefaultMIDI] MIDIDef.exe

O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [EA Core] "C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\EADM\Core.exe" -silent
O4 - Startup: Webshots.lnk = C:\Program Files\Webshots\Launcher.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL

O23 - Service: Ad-Aware 2007 Service (aawservice) - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe
O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
O23 - Service: Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd - C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE

O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe

O23 - Service: NICCONFIGSVC - Dell Inc. - C:\Program Files\Dell\NICCONFIGSVC\NICCONFIGSVC.exe

O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe



Oh yes he has.
You don't NEED this stuff in startup.

And I'd dump McAfees and get a decent antivirus - NOD32 for a pay one or MS Security Essentials for free.

And get rid of AdAware - it's out of date and no good anymore anyway.

Speedy Gonzales
10-12-2009, 01:54 PM
Unless youre planning on uninstalling those programs, I wouldnt tick those entries

pctek
10-12-2009, 03:28 PM
Unless youre planning on uninstalling those programs, I wouldnt tick those entries

It doesn't harm anything, it just takes it out of startup.

BasketballOSU
10-12-2009, 03:33 PM
That's what I was wondering - I don't necessarily want to DELETE or UNINSTALL this stuff, just make it to where it doesn't run itself every time I boot up...

Any way to do this?

zqwerty
10-12-2009, 03:51 PM
Yep

StartupCPL http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

get the control panel version not the stand alone.

Whilst you are there get:

StartupMonitor http://www.mlin.net/StartupMonitor.shtml

Read the how to use on the pages, both very worthwhile I have had them on every computer I've owned for the last 8 years, wouldn't run any computer I have any control over without them both.

nofam
10-12-2009, 03:53 PM
Yep

StartupCPL http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

get the control panel version not the stand alone.

Whilst you are there get:

StartupMonitor http://www.mlin.net/StartupMonitor.shtml

Read the how to use on the pages, both very worthwhile I have had them on every computer I've owned for the last 8 years, wouldn't run any computer I have any control over without them both.

My favourite is Autoruns by Sysinternals; probably the single-most useful app I have.

Chris09
10-12-2009, 06:21 PM
My favourite is Autoruns by Sysinternals; probably the single-most useful app I have.

x100000000

Auto runs; easy & fast.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

And why do you people use msconfig.. tis only for troubleshooting.. not very good to temporary disable start up entries from there.. besides, it only shows 70%! Ah well.. people will learn eventually I guess.

zqwerty
10-12-2009, 08:33 PM
No, Autoruns is too powerful for the average user, StartupCPL is perfect for dealing with too many programs in startup but that you still may want to re-enable later and easily.

Also autoruns does not warn when new programs are added to startup at install.