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convair
15-10-2009, 10:27 PM
I'm looking at build a new PC to replace my aging AMD PC.

The budget is $900 for a new PC box. I would like to still be able to run Windows XP Home on the new PC.

The PC will be used for running flight simulator 2004.

So what would you guys on here suggest in the way of a new PC?

Sweep
15-10-2009, 10:40 PM
I'm looking at build a new PC to replace my aging AMD PC.

The budget is $900 for a new PC box. I would like to still be able to run Windows XP Home on the new PC.

The PC will be used for running flight simulator 2004.

So what would you guys on here suggest in the way of a new PC?

What do you currently have in the way of hardware?

whellington
15-10-2009, 11:17 PM
http://iforce.co.nz/i/z1lpxlwt.jpg (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=z1lpxlwt.jpg)

No DVDRW, u can choose cheaper case to reduce cost. If you stretch your budget to $1000 you could upgrade to the AMD 3.0ghz

Sweep
15-10-2009, 11:18 PM
Is the new PC to be water cooled?

convair
16-10-2009, 07:18 PM
Is the new PC to be water cooled?

What do you currently have in the way of hardware?



1st question: No it will not be water cooled after looking at the posts in the thread I created asking about water cooling for PC.

Heres what I currently have:


CPU AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200+

MotherBoard ASUS M2A-VM Series

RAM Kingston 2gig DDR2 Pc2-5300

Hard Drive Seagate Barracuda 80gb 7200 SATA

Sweep
16-10-2009, 07:33 PM
Are you using on board graphics or if not what is inserted?

I have not yet looked at the motherboard specs but I will do so later.

convair
16-10-2009, 07:40 PM
There is a ATI 3650 PCIE 512mb card in at the moment.

Blam
16-10-2009, 08:04 PM
What is your current PSU?

Chances are it won't be enough to handle a new CPU+Graphics, card, so upgrade it to a 500w~ Antec, Corsair or Enermax PSU.

Your motherboard supports AM2+(you may need a BIOS update) so I would recommend this:
http://www.ifocus.co.nz/product_info.php?products_id=01191

Black edition, so throw in a decent cooler(maybe even the stock will do!) and you should be able to reach 3ghz easy

Then throw in 2x2gb of DDR2-800 of GSkill, OCZ, Patriot or Corsair RAM.
http://www.playtech.co.nz/product.php?action=showdetail&id=2863

Next, throw in a 4890 graphics card.

Then throw in an Intel 80gb SSD-From what I've heard, FSX should benefit greatly from this, althought I am not an expert, so correct me if I am wrong:)

Blam

convair
16-10-2009, 08:07 PM
The power supply is a 350 watt that came with the PC.

evrypc
16-10-2009, 08:09 PM
I reckon you got a pretty decent machine at the moment. Maybe you could get a new motherboard and stick an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU in?
Apart from that,
nice rig!

convair
16-10-2009, 08:13 PM
What is a Intel 80gb SSD? Never heard of it

KarameaDave
16-10-2009, 08:15 PM
SSD=solid state drive
considered faster than a hard disk drive and has no moving parts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive

Blam
16-10-2009, 08:16 PM
I reckon you got a pretty decent machine at the moment. Maybe you could get a new motherboard and stick an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU in?
Apart from that,
nice rig!

Why upgrade the motherboard if the current one still suffices for his needs?...

Jimm: Something like this would be a good PSU:
http://www.playtech.co.nz/product.php?action=showdetail&id=7055

And also, you may want to spend some money on a new monitor, or two.

Blam

convair
16-10-2009, 08:25 PM
And also, you may want to spend some money on a new monitor, or two.

Blam

I've just got me a brand new Phillips 191EW 19 inch flat panel monitor to replace the old CRT that I had been using.

In regards to FSX, I still prefer my old favourite FS2004
http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4ad820ad033b4986273fc0a87f3b06bf/Product/View/XS2804

Blam
16-10-2009, 08:29 PM
I've just got me a brand new Phillips 191EW 19 inch flat panel monitor to replace the old CRT that I had been using.

You really should've paid more and gotten a bigger size, at least 22"

Currently 22" monitors are very cheap, going from $260-$400

I have the VX2233vm myself, which was around $320

Sweep
16-10-2009, 08:33 PM
I've just got me a brand new Phillips 191EW 19 inch flat panel monitor to replace the old CRT that I had been using.

In regards to FSX, I still prefer my old favourite FS2004
http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4ad820ad033b4986273fc0a87f3b06bf/Product/View/XS2804

And did you pay for another copy thereof when you could have got a replacement from Microsoft if one CD did not work?

convair
16-10-2009, 08:34 PM
You really should've paid more and gotten a bigger size, at least 22"

Currently 22" monitors are very cheap, going from $260-$400

I have the VX2233vm myself, which was around $320

I had thought about getting bigger at the time but decided on the current one that I mentioned above. Anyway having the new LCD certainly beats having the old CRT monitor I had.

convair
16-10-2009, 08:37 PM
And did you pay for another copy thereof when you could have got a replacement from Microsoft if one CD did not work?

No I went and got a brand new copy for $50. It was quicker than having to deal with Microsoft for a replacement disc.

Sweep
16-10-2009, 08:44 PM
Agreed but more expensive I guess.

convair
16-10-2009, 08:46 PM
Next, throw in a 4890 graphics card.

Is this what you are meaning blam?
http://www.playtech.co.nz/product.php?action=showdetail&id=8001

Blam
16-10-2009, 08:55 PM
Yep

convair
16-10-2009, 08:58 PM
I wonder what the framerates would be like with that graphics card and all the other upgrades?

KarameaDave
16-10-2009, 09:00 PM
What are they now?

Sweep
16-10-2009, 09:02 PM
In various posts you had a budget of $900 for a new PC box.

This is why I asked what you currently have so that an upgrade may be done.

Getting the required information is like getting blood out of a stone.

Just how do you expect people that want to help can give you valid advice?

convair
16-10-2009, 09:07 PM
What are they now?

I've set the limiter within FS2004 to 35fps. The lowest I have had is 25fps.

KarameaDave
16-10-2009, 09:16 PM
That is not bad, after all we were all happy at the movies at 24 fps;)

convair
16-10-2009, 09:24 PM
Heres what I want to add

A new CPU that is faster than what I currently have.

A larger power supply to replace the small 350 watt PSU that I currently have.

Some more RAM for better performance

And a bigger hard drive to replace the current.

Blam
16-10-2009, 09:30 PM
Can we try to keep to the budget. Its good to try and see what can be done with what I currently but the graphics card will be the very last thing that will replace.

I'm mainly looking at processor power and more RAM and a larger hard drive. Also a better a better power supply.

The processor I linked to will be more than enough.

The graphics card is what you *should* be focusing on, you need to game!

Sweep
16-10-2009, 09:33 PM
Can we try to keep to the budget. Its good to try and see what can be done with what I currently but the graphics card will be the very last thing that will replace.

I'm mainly looking at processor power and more RAM and a larger hard drive. Also a better a better power supply.

The first thing you could replace is the graphic card.

But don't worry about the advice given as you may ignore it anyway.

whellington
16-10-2009, 09:43 PM
http://iforce.co.nz/i/hwgyrb2f.jpg (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=hwgyrb2f.jpg)

GG

45nm, overclocks better than the one blam9 linked to

http://www.ifocus.co.nz/product_info.php?products_id=01191