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nedkelly
06-10-2009, 10:41 AM
Hey I have just been asked to install a laptop for my mate. And his parents want to block him from doing all the illegal downloads that he does cause they only have a 5gb cap. Going to be installing windows xp pro, and sticking avast free and comodo firewall, how would I block programs like limewire, frostwire and utorrent from the internet without actually installing them, but also block any port changes?

ronyville
06-10-2009, 10:53 AM
you could make him a standard user so he is not able to install any software on the pc..

Speedy Gonzales
06-10-2009, 10:54 AM
Block them in the router or use avast its got a password option and block the urls. Or easier way dont let him on the net. If the parents pay for it, tell them to use their heads

nedkelly
06-10-2009, 10:56 AM
thats why they came to me. To try and block him from using the net for wrong things

Speedy Gonzales
06-10-2009, 11:04 AM
Well as rony said add him as a guest. Then he'll have limited access

utopian201
06-10-2009, 12:14 PM
probably don't need to go as far as guest, but do use a limited account, so they can't install software. Although i don't think it will stop him from installing software which doesn't modify the registry or installing it to his own drive.

Also I'm not sure if the control panels for the firewalls show up in limited user accounts, otherwise he'd just be able to allow them to go through.

Having said that, all users should always use limited accounts. No one uses linux as root for every day use, just like no one should use windows as administrator for every day use.

Sweep
06-10-2009, 12:38 PM
The other thought is that all URLS can be modified in the host file as well.

Other than that just do not give the mate Internet access at all.

Blam
06-10-2009, 07:09 PM
Block a port range...(on the router, or use Comodo)

Everything escept the essentials...

Chris09
06-10-2009, 07:25 PM
Yeah, limited account.

Block in Router domain & URL settings.

Internet Locker - or Net Nanny etc - to moderate activity.

Keylogger - to moderate activity.

Simply uninstall it every time he puts it on?

the_bogan
06-10-2009, 08:29 PM
Yeah, limited account.

Block in Router domain & URL settings.

Internet Locker - or Net Nanny etc - to moderate activity.

Keylogger - to moderate activity.

Simply uninstall it every time he puts it on?

I'm going off the assumption the kid knows more than the parents when it comes to PC knowledge.

Any keyloggers will probably show up with the antivirus, if the AV is any good.

How do you block the domains etc in the router that he/she will use without knowing them?

Internet logger or Net Nanny, the kids proably know how to get around this.

Jeez, I'm pessimistic, aren't I? The best advice I can offer is to keep the PC in a public area.

Speedy Gonzales
06-10-2009, 09:01 PM
Block all the P2P program sites, and ports while theyre at it. Get a hardware keylogger then. Nothing will pick it up, unless he knows its there lol. Glue it to the port.

wainuitech
06-10-2009, 09:30 PM
Ideal solution - one kid in wgtn is really pissed off with me :D and his parents, he wouldn't stop the P2p etc.

I Installed K9webprotection (http://www1.k9webprotection.com/) - its free, easy to setup and understand. (screen shots on the "About" page of the site, 2nd picture down, shows what can be blocked.)

Its password protected, you can shut down the internet connection at a time you want, and block what ever you you want, programs, sites, types of sites - the lot.

you cant bypass or disable it, even in safe mode, cant kill the process, cant stop it from running in msconfig, cant remove it with out the password.

Biggest down fall - DONT forget the password, you have to make it something not easy to crack / guess, But something not forgotten either.

The shut down feature is good, lets say you want to block the internet at 11pm - 8am. you can set a warning say 15 minutes earlier that it will shut down. Once the time hits 11 - good bye internet till 8 am. You can disable the clock so it cant be changed as well.

If you need to carry on, by entering the password, you can turn it off as a temp measure. if the PC is rebooted, the Internet simply wont load.

Agent_24
06-10-2009, 10:10 PM
If they get Vista or Windows 7 they could use the parental control feature...

DUNK
07-10-2009, 12:17 AM
Dig up 'George Orwell' Do a "Mind Meld" (Should work, as long as he wasn't cremated) Ask him how the "Thought Police" would go about the task. Had an answer for everything, those people !! :2cents:

Chris09
07-10-2009, 06:35 AM
Ideal solution - one kid in wgtn is really pissed off with me :D and his parents, he wouldn't stop the P2p etc.

I Installed K9webprotection (http://www1.k9webprotection.com/) - its free, easy to setup and understand. (screen shots on the "About" page of the site, 2nd picture down, shows what can be blocked.)

Its password protected, you can shut down the internet connection at a time you want, and block what ever you you want, programs, sites, types of sites - the lot.

you cant bypass or disable it, even in safe mode, cant kill the process, cant stop it from running in msconfig, cant remove it with out the password.

Biggest down fall - DONT forget the password, you have to make it something not easy to crack / guess, But something not forgotten either.

The shut down feature is good, lets say you want to block the internet at 11pm - 8am. you can set a warning say 15 minutes earlier that it will shut down. Once the time hits 11 - good bye internet till 8 am. You can disable the clock so it cant be changed as well.

If you need to carry on, by entering the password, you can turn it off as a temp measure. if the PC is rebooted, the Internet simply wont load.

PwNeD! +++++++++111111

Yeah, go with that. Lol.

Blam
07-10-2009, 11:11 AM
Ideal solution - one kid in wgtn is really pissed off with me :D and his parents, he wouldn't stop the P2p etc.

I Installed K9webprotection (http://www1.k9webprotection.com/) - its free, easy to setup and understand. (screen shots on the "About" page of the site, 2nd picture down, shows what can be blocked.)



Had to remove that from a friends PC once, and his dad had forgotten the password.

It was stopping it from accessing the internet at school via the school proxy.

Don't remember how I did it, but man it was a b1tch to remove!

Whatever you do, don't forget the password:p

wainuitech
07-10-2009, 12:14 PM
I advised I keep a copy of the password in there customer details, in case they forgot it - the parents agreed.

Funny thing, the kid rings me up about a week later saying " dad forgot the password and has asked me to call you"

:lol: Nice try -- I suggested the father call me and then I'd remind him what it was ---funny never got the call :illogical

Agent_24
07-10-2009, 12:39 PM
Had to remove that from a friends PC once, and his dad had forgotten the password.

It was stopping it from accessing the internet at school via the school proxy.

Don't remember how I did it, but man it was a b1tch to remove!

Whatever you do, don't forget the password:p

That's why you should document your solutions to problems...

Blam
07-10-2009, 12:53 PM
That's why you should document your solutions to problems...

It was a one off really....I rarely fix PCs, not enough for me to document my solutions:p

Agent_24
07-10-2009, 12:54 PM
Lucky you, even with my own PCs I seem to have to fix them all the time.. :(

wratterus
07-10-2009, 12:57 PM
Funny thing, the kid rings me up about a week later saying " dad forgot the password and has asked me to call you"

:lol: Hahaha... have had this before. Always good for a chuckle. The kids can get quite lippy sometimes. :lol:

plod
07-10-2009, 03:57 PM
what about openDNS (http://www.opendns.com/) and do your blocking from the router

eimaj
07-10-2009, 04:24 PM
For blocking or redirecting known (P2P?) sites that will be visited use the host file-

http://allthingsmarked.com/2006/08/28/howto-block-websites-using-the-hosts-file/

Blam
07-10-2009, 10:19 PM
For blocking or redirecting known (P2P?) sites that will be visited use the host file-

http://allthingsmarked.com/2006/08/28/howto-block-websites-using-the-hosts-file/

Ah but you can't block torrenting with that;)

MoMo
23-12-2009, 01:26 PM
I suggest using hosts file or OpenDNS, if you wanna block as many as sites and programs, choose some filter software
this tells you how to filter unwanted content on your computer (http://www.aobo-porn-filter.com)
And the page recommends some useful tools: http://www.parental-controls-software.net/