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nedkelly
11-09-2009, 06:52 PM
Just wondering is it just me or has this changed for everybody. Logged in after came home from course and the ads by google which is usually on the right is now on the left and my web browser looks strange on my screen

Pancake
11-09-2009, 06:57 PM
Yer.I hate that layout.....urk

Sting Ray
11-09-2009, 06:58 PM
Na its not just you I have those annoying ads too

nedkelly
11-09-2009, 07:01 PM
why did they change it?

nedkelly
11-09-2009, 07:02 PM
they use to be on the right, now on the left it has screwed my screen up cause i also have google desktop on the right

Sting Ray
11-09-2009, 07:05 PM
why don't we just have pop up ads too

nedkelly
11-09-2009, 07:13 PM
any ideas how to change it back?

davidmmac
11-09-2009, 07:52 PM
Just logged in, first I thought my browser was having issues but no, PCW have changed the layout :waughh:. Can we go back to the old one, please? :dogeye:

nedkelly
11-09-2009, 07:58 PM
agreed

beeswax34
11-09-2009, 07:59 PM
God, PF1 just cant let things stay as they are..

Sweep
11-09-2009, 08:15 PM
God, PF1 just cant let things stay as they are..

Yes they can. This is not a democracy but you can vote with your feet.

kahawai chaser
11-09-2009, 08:30 PM
I guess changing ad position to try increase conversion rates, as many adsense publishers try different optimization methods; Seems Press F1 is also using interest based Google ads - based on visitors surfing habits (i.e. what interests them) hence displaying some ads that try to match their needs.

wainuitech
11-09-2009, 08:42 PM
Yes they can. This is not a democracy but you can vote with your feet.Would be interesting to see what happened if all the regulars decided to take a week or two off in protest, all at the same time.

Theres a debate for us - which week :D

gary67
11-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Anyone want to host the new communist free Ad free F1 button forum, oh you might need to build it as well then invite us all to join it

Sweep
11-09-2009, 09:31 PM
Would be interesting to see what happened if all the regulars decided to take a week or two off in protest, all at the same time.

Theres a debate for us - which week :D

Why stop at a week or two?

Which full month? Red October has a nice ring to it and gives us time to plan. :D

The peasants can revolt.

Just noticed that when previewing a post it's all centered as well which does not make it into the final version.

GameJunkie
11-09-2009, 10:53 PM
PF1 , sort your **** out!!!!

first the magazine is going to the dogs, and now you screw up the site.

boycott
boycott
boycott
boycott
boycott
boycott
boycott
boycott

Erayd
11-09-2009, 11:01 PM
Aaaaargh! Got home and it's completely effing broken.... Stand by, I'll be doing a new stylesheet for it now, will post it as soon as it's fixed.

To whichever [self-moderated to avoid a ban] on the fairfax staff thought this was a good idea, please for the love of god reconsider!

Chilling_Silence
11-09-2009, 11:04 PM
Horrible stuff it is!

Tempted to abuse my admin privileges and "fix" it ... but that would be wrong ... perhaps not as wrong as the Ads being on that side of the screen though :-/

Talk about a dilemma!!

Chilling_Silence
11-09-2009, 11:07 PM
To ... thought this was a good idea, please for the love of god reconsider!

Looks like somebody just read the "Recommended placement for best returns" by Google on their AdSense site and didn't quire realize how horrible it makes the site to navigate now :(

That said, on the up-side, it *does* appear to be loading faster for some reason?!

GameJunkie
11-09-2009, 11:11 PM
use your connections chill and save this site!!!!!

Erayd
11-09-2009, 11:41 PM
OK, this seems to fix most of it, although there are still a few things aligned wrong - my vicious correction of the erroneously centred text also caught the odd thing that should have been centred.

This should work both with and without JavaScript enabled, although if you disable it things will obviously render a fair bit faster.

If some of you could test this and give me some feedback about what, if anything, still needs fixing / changing, or if you find any bugs, that would be much appreciated.

Thanks :)

/*remove ads and misc branding clutter, clean up layout */
table[bgcolor="#DF0026"], /*red banner at top of page*/
#navigation, /*grey fairfax navbar at top*/
td[width="170"], /*left ads*/
div[style="margin:0 0 5px 0"], /*top ads*/
#sponsor_div, /*bottom ads*/
div[style="width:302px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "], /*more bottom ads*/
#adSpace2 /*even more bottom ads*/
{display: none;}

/*fix damaged alignment in forum thread list & forum header*/
td[align="center"] {text-align: left;}

minster
11-09-2009, 11:41 PM
Sounds like a bunch of wingin poms (as we used to say)
It's not as if you actually have to read those ads ... Get over it!
Enjoy the fact that we all have a great site to visit and to get help from.
I thought kiwi's knew what gratitude was?

Erayd
11-09-2009, 11:43 PM
Sounds like a bunch of wingin poms (as we used to say)
It's not as if you actually have to read those ads ... Get over it!
Enjoy the fact that we all have a great site to visit and to get help from.
I thought kiwi's knew what gratitude was?
We do. I'm not going to repeat the whole argument here, but there have been many threads on it in the past which you're welcome to search.

We don't have a problem with ads, and many of us would even be happy to pay something to keep the forum ad-free. What we do have a problem with is the way Fairfax implements the ads here, and the utter lack of respect to the users who make this site useful for them.

This is why every time they change the ads, I post a new script to nuke them. I will continue to do so until they either fix the ads, or ban me for doing it.

wainuitech
11-09-2009, 11:47 PM
Wonder when the porn ads will start :eek: Thats usually a good way of gathering "clicks for Cash" - seen way to many , what used to be good "family" sites now showing porn ads. $$$$$$$$$

You could almost say Its starting (http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/Ads.jpg) --- OH right - we ALL Love our computers so much :wub :lol:

minster
11-09-2009, 11:50 PM
We do. I'm not going to repeat the whole argument here, but there have been many threads on it in the past which you're welcome to search.

We don't have a problem with ads, and many of us would even be happy to pay something to keep the forum ad-free. What we do have a problem with is the way Fairfax implements the ads here, and the utter lack of respect to the users who make this site useful for them.

This is why every time they change the ads, I post a new script to nuke them. I will continue to do so until they either fix the ads, or ban me for doing it.

Fair enough:)
You can stay hear playin with the ads, I'm off to read posts about computers:thumbs:

stu161204
12-09-2009, 12:09 AM
Tempted to abuse my admin privileges and "fix" it ... but that would be wrong ... perhaps not as wrong as the Ads being on that side of the screen though :-/

Abuse your powers & put the ads on the right hand side please!!

Jen
12-09-2009, 12:16 AM
We don't have a problem with ads, and many of us would even be happy to pay something to keep the forum ad-free. What we do have a problem with is the way Fairfax implements the ads here, and the utter lack of respect to the users who make this site useful for them.

This is why every time they change the ads, I post a new script to nuke them. I will continue to do so until they either fix the ads, or ban me for doing it.I've PM'd Ted Gibbons (acting site Admin) asking him to sort out the IE display issue and re-consider the placement of the ads.

Who knows, something may be done ...

Watch this space (the one over <----- there :p)

Brooko
12-09-2009, 12:17 AM
If some of you could test this and give me some feedback about what, if anything, still needs fixing / changing, or if you find any bugs, that would be much appreciated.

Thanks :)


Erayd :thanks :thumbs:

Works perfectly Opera 10 Mepis Linux 64b

Cannot believe how hard it was to catch up on the news with that change. Great to have it back to normal again with your script.

Erayd
12-09-2009, 12:18 AM
I've PM'd Ted Gibbons (acting site Admin) asking him to sort out the IE display issue and re-consider the placement of the ads.

Who knows, something may be done ...

Watch this space (the one over <----- there :p)
Thanks :). Fingers crossed that something will happen, although I'm not hopeful - it never has in the past, not even with Jan & Karl's campaign to get things improved. They decided to ship Jan off to Norway instead where he's much easier to ignore :groan:.

Agent_24
12-09-2009, 12:22 AM
Bah. Now I got a big blank space down the left of my screen.

Any good way to fix that in IE7?

gary67
12-09-2009, 09:08 AM
Much better Thanks Erayd it it wasn't for your efforts I might have left long ago

nedkelly
12-09-2009, 10:26 AM
just to point out I dont even use IE I use chrome

B.M.
12-09-2009, 10:43 AM
I know this has been answered before but where do I paste Erayd’s script again.

Have both Firefox and Explorer. :thanks

nedkelly
12-09-2009, 10:46 AM
yeah i thought the same thing only after i copied it to notepad.
But im wondering if it works in chrome.

Erayd
12-09-2009, 12:01 PM
I know this has been answered before but where do I paste Erayd’s script again.

Have both Firefox and Explorer. :thanks
IE (as far as I'm aware) can't use it.

Firefox can use it via the 'stylish' plugin, but remember to limit it to just PressF1 - otherwise the rest of your browsing experience may look rather weird.

Chrome should be able to use it if you can find some way of applying it - it certainly supports the code. Unfortunately as I don't use chrome at all, I can't tell you how to do it sorry.

nedkelly
12-09-2009, 12:10 PM
Just set it up in firefox and omg it is beautiful. Any way you could write one to make the new trademe website use all of the screen again?

Erayd
12-09-2009, 12:19 PM
Just set it up in firefox and omg it is beautiful. Any way you could write one to make the new trademe website use all of the screen again?

Not terribly interested in doing that sorry - I'm not on a crusade to rid the web of ads, and I don't find Trademe's ones annoying.

nedkelly
12-09-2009, 12:26 PM
not the ads on trademe just the fact that the new design does not use up my entire widescreen any more

gary67
12-09-2009, 01:33 PM
I have PC world as my homepage and the script has removed the menu bar from the homepage any pointers to get it back?

Erayd
12-09-2009, 02:14 PM
I have PC world as my homepage and the script has removed the menu bar from the homepage any pointers to get it back?

This means you forgot to apply it just to PressF1, and you applied it to everything. Restrict it to just PressF1, and the menu bar on PC World will return.

gary67
12-09-2009, 02:35 PM
Odd this is what I have

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document domain("pressf1.pcworld.co.nz") {

}/*remove ads and misc branding clutter, clean up layout */
table[bgcolor="#DF0026"], /*red banner at top of page*/
#navigation, /*grey fairfax navbar at top*/
td[width="170"], /*left ads*/
div[style="margin:0 0 5px 0"], /*top ads*/
#sponsor_div, /*bottom ads*/
div[style="width:302px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "], /*more bottom ads*/
#adSpace2 /*even more bottom ads*/
{display: none;}

/*fix damaged alignment in forum thread list & forum header*/

where have I gone wrong?
td[align="center"] {text-align: left;}

Erayd
12-09-2009, 02:37 PM
The problem is you've put the CSS outside the PressF1 block. Note the closing } - the CSS has to go between those braces, not after them.

Edit:
@-moz-document domain("pressf1.pcworld.co.nz") {
CSS goes here
}

gary67
12-09-2009, 02:38 PM
Like this

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document domain("pressf1.pcworld.co.nz") {/*remove ads and misc branding clutter, clean up layout */
table[bgcolor="#DF0026"], /*red banner at top of page*/
#navigation, /*grey fairfax navbar at top*/
td[width="170"], /*left ads*/
div[style="margin:0 0 5px 0"], /*top ads*/
#sponsor_div, /*bottom ads*/
div[style="width:302px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "], /*more bottom ads*/
#adSpace2 /*even more bottom ads*/
{display: none;}

FoxyMX
12-09-2009, 09:15 PM
OK, this seems to fix most of it, although there are still a few things aligned wrong - my vicious correction of the erroneously centred text also caught the odd thing that should have been centred.

This should work both with and without JavaScript enabled, although if you disable it things will obviously render a fair bit faster.

If some of you could test this and give me some feedback about what, if anything, still needs fixing / changing, or if you find any bugs, that would be much appreciated.


Thanks Erayd, absolutely brilliant. :thumbs: :wub

gary67
12-09-2009, 10:15 PM
All done here too :thanks once again Erayd

Strommer
29-10-2009, 10:30 PM
OK, this seems to fix most of it, although there are still a few things aligned wrong - my vicious correction of the erroneously centred text also caught the odd thing that should have been centred.

This should work both with and without JavaScript enabled, although if you disable it things will obviously render a fair bit faster.

If some of you could test this and give me some feedback about what, if anything, still needs fixing / changing, or if you find any bugs, that would be much appreciated.

Thanks :)

/*remove ads and misc branding clutter, clean up layout */
table[bgcolor="#DF0026"], /*red banner at top of page*/
#navigation, /*grey fairfax navbar at top*/
td[width="170"], /*left ads*/
div[style="margin:0 0 5px 0"], /*top ads*/
#sponsor_div, /*bottom ads*/
div[style="width:302px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "], /*more bottom ads*/
#adSpace2 /*even more bottom ads*/
{display: none;}

/*fix damaged alignment in forum thread list & forum header*/
td[align="center"] {text-align: left;}



After updating FF to 3.5.4 the above script no longer works.

Anyone else have this problem? The wide left advert column is irritating.

GameJunkie
29-10-2009, 11:04 PM
After updating FF to 3.5.4 the above script no longer works.

Anyone else have this problem? The wide left advert column is irritating.

theres a new (http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?t=103187&page=2) script that works now.

gary67
30-10-2009, 06:44 AM
Except the wide side column stays unfortunately

Strommer
30-10-2009, 07:31 AM
theres a new (http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?t=103187&page=2) script that works now.

Thanks GJ. It works. :)

smurf
30-10-2009, 09:17 AM
Thanks Works well :)

Erayd
30-10-2009, 09:44 AM
Except the wide side column stays unfortunately
It shouldn't do - any chance of a screenie & browser version so I can fix it?

GameJunkie
30-10-2009, 09:50 AM
Thanks GJ. It works. :)

no worries

gary67
30-10-2009, 05:30 PM
It shouldn't do - any chance of a screenie & browser version so I can fix it?

Not sure if this is what every one else sees, latest FF browser see here (http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/PF1_desk.png)

Erayd
30-10-2009, 11:25 PM
Not sure if this is what every one else sees, latest FF browser see here (http://www.imagef1.net.nz/files/PF1_desk.png)

That looks to me like you're running an outdated version of the CSS - grab the latest one from here (http://pressf1.co.nz/showpost.php?p=819667&postcount=1). The forum should look exactly like the screenshots attached to that post, but with a search box at the top. None of the other junk your screenshot shows (top & left) should be there.

gary67
31-10-2009, 08:10 AM
Just put in the script again and nothing has changed.

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document domain("pressf1.pcworld.co.nz") {@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document domain("pressf1.co.nz")
{/*remove ads and misc branding clutter, clean up layout */
table[bgcolor="#DF0026"], /*red banner at top of page*/
#navigation, /*grey fairfax navbar at top*/
td[width="165"], /*left ads*/
div[style="margin:0 0 5px 0"], /*top ads*/
p[align="center"][style="margin:0px auto"], /*more top ads*/
p[align="center"][style="margin: 0px auto;"] ins, /*even more top ads (firefox only)*/
div[style="margin:5px auto"] div[style="width:100%; text-align:center"], /*and a few more top ads*/
#sponsor_div, /*bottom ads*/
div[style="width:302px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "], /*more bottom ads*/
#adSpace2, /*even more bottom ads*/
iframe[name="google_ads_frame"] /*various google ads*/
{display: none !important;}

/*fix damaged alignment in forum thread list & forum header*/
td[align="center"] {text-align: left;}

/*remove new PressF1 forum logo*/
img[src="http://pcworld.co.nz/pcwpressf1/pressf1_logo.gif"] {display: none !important;}

/* 2009-10-29 12:56
* Changed width of left ad column (thanks R2x1 for noticing this)
* Removed a new div containing more top ads
* Removed google ads iframes
* Removed the new logo
*/
}

Erayd
31-10-2009, 01:24 PM
Just put in the script again and nothing has changed.
Then my guess is you're running another style (maybe another version of my CSS?) that is overriding it. I've checked it again, and the current style definitely works in both Firefox and Opera.

Interestingly enough, you're not the only person to have this problem - perhaps stylish isn't remembering the new settings properly?

If you can't find the cause, I'm happy to take a look via TeamViewer or similar and see if I can figure out what's wrong.

gary67
31-10-2009, 03:55 PM
It's not too bad I'll live with it for now until it gets too annoying thanks for your time it is much appreciated though

Erayd
31-10-2009, 06:06 PM
OK - give me a shout if you change your mind :).