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LynX
07-07-2009, 07:34 PM
Hi everyone,

Recently decided that the 15in monitor on my screen, which has worked for me for the last six years (and it was kinda expensive back then, I suppose), has completed its mission, and a replacement is to be sought.

(In plain English: I don't like my 15in monitor now, as it is too small, along with a laggy 16 or 25ms response time, although I can't feel the sluggishness when playing HAWX. I don't know how did that happen, but I decided that I'll replace it.)

I might get a big 22in one, or buy smaller (19 or 20in), and put it next to my existing monitor (I wonder how it will look?). I know that there are A FEW MILLION posts like this before, but I just can't be bothered looking around. So my question is: which rig (solo or dual monitors) should I opt for, and which ones should I be looking for? I don't have a lot of requirements for it, and I don't need inbuilt speakers as they are a waste of money IMO.

Thanks for reading this long post (it looks pretty long in Post New Thread textbox), and any suggestions appreciated.

Blam
07-07-2009, 07:37 PM
How about the LG 22" SMART series or the Viewsonic VX2233vm

I have the latter myself and the quality is pretty good.

Blam

LynX
07-07-2009, 09:05 PM
Yeah, my 15in is a LG. Used for six years and not one dead pixel. Not even one. Viewsonic, from what I heard, is quite good as well. But I live in Christchurch, and there are not as many choices as there are (in fact I'm just scared that they will be snotty when I find them for faults).

Some shops are also internet-based, and all they have is a postal address on the Contacts page. How reliable are they? The economical trend is not good, and some may become scams. Plus I can't look at the actual product.

Thanks for the suggestion, Blam.

p.s. you replied 3 minutes after I posted the thread?

Blam
07-07-2009, 09:21 PM
PC Online Shop is cheap and get you the product, but I've heard their after service is so so.

Try computer lounge, free shipping:
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=7709
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=6959
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=8057
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=7457

I would recommend Ascent except their prices are very high.

Blam

P.S I type fast..:p

gary67
07-07-2009, 09:22 PM
Ascent are very good but there must be some good shops in Chch there are several members on here from down there. You have much more choice than here in Nelson. Don't rely on price spy as often the shops on there don't have any stock. Go into some toaster shops (HN, DSE) see what monitors you like then go shopping online for price. As i said Ascent or possibly computer lounge are good

LynX
07-07-2009, 09:51 PM
Okay... so you are all saying that B2C etailing is the way to go. But I don't really believe in internet shopping, because it still gives me a sense of insecurity......

On the other hand, some monitors that I wanted, like the LG 2252, are on sale at a very small range of shops, and almost all of them are online shops in Auckland.

It's getting harder now...

JustinR
08-07-2009, 09:15 AM
How about the LG 22" SMART series or the Viewsonic VX2233vm

I have the latter myself and the quality is pretty good.

Blam

+1

you can pick up some cheap viewsonics on trademe, got one myself its fantastic especially for games

JJJJJ
08-07-2009, 10:32 AM
I've got a 19" LCD Viewsonic sitting here cluttering up the room. Anyone who wants it can have it. You'll have to come and get it though.

LynX
08-07-2009, 10:38 AM
Thanks for so many good advises...

But what makes a Viewsonic good? I mean, I saw Dell's and Acer's on the market... And budget brand AOC (is AOC a budget brand?). They look all quite decent. Do they have a higher probability of getting dead pixels, or do they generally last shorter?

p.s. the "good" monitors (Viewsonic, LG, Samsung etc.) are only on sale in the specialised PC shops...

utopian201
08-07-2009, 10:48 AM
What will you mainly using the monitor for? And what is important? For example colour accuracy, viewing angles, image processing time. Budget?

(copied from a previous post)
You can check which panel a certain screen has here:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/panelsearch.htm
The main LCD panel types are:
TN: Lowest cost, worst viewing angles and colour reproduction, low image processing lag. Apparently best for fast paced gaming, worst for image editing and professsional work where colour accuracy is important. TN panels can only display 262k colours natively and use dithering to display 16.7m.

*VA (MVA, PVA, S-PVA): Middle of the road, better viewing angles and colour reproduction, typically high image processing lag (as high as 64ms!). Typically best black levels and contrast. Can display 16.7m colours but unfortunately (or fortunately if you're a design professional) most newer panels of this type are wide gamut, meaning sRGB images are oversaturated in non colour managed applications. Can suffer from slight horizontal contrast shift (like TN's vertical contrast shift, but not as obvious)

IPS (S-IPS, H-IPS): Most expensive technology, viewing angles and colour reproduction almost as good as (or even better than) that of a CRT, medium image processing (between 20-40ms). Almost all are wide gamut (which is a disadvantage, or an advantage depending on how you look at it). No contrast shift.

All panel types have similar response times so ghosting is not really a problem anymore. Although some panels use overdrive, so you get a 'negative' ghosting effect, depending on the background eg on the TN (viewsonic 22") I'm using now, there is a slight ghosting trail, which isn't noticable on my IPS screen. So in this instance, TN has worse ghosting than IPS, even though the TN has a "quicker" documented (5ms for TN, 6ms for IPS) response time.

wratterus
08-07-2009, 10:51 AM
Okay... so you are all saying that B2C etailing is the way to go. But I don't really believe in internet shopping, because it still gives me a sense of insecurity......

On the other hand, some monitors that I wanted, like the LG 2252, are on sale at a very small range of shops, and almost all of them are online shops in Auckland.

It's getting harder now...

You'll more than likely be safer buying from somewhere like Ascent Or ComputerLounge than your average shop. :thumbs:

Trev
08-07-2009, 11:18 AM
I have spent between 5 and 10 thousand dollars shopping online over the last 8 years or so here and overseas without a problem.
:)

hueybot3000
08-07-2009, 11:43 AM
Try Dragonpc, they're here in chch. They've been around 10+ years so i wouldnt worry about being scammed

DeSade
08-07-2009, 04:19 PM
Harvey Norman has a good range of monitors and Visual Tech who are the repairers for Viewsonic are excellent to deal with.

robbyp
08-07-2009, 06:36 PM
Try Dragonpc, they're here in chch. They've been around 10+ years so i wouldnt worry about being scammed

You are joking aren't you. I remember hearing heaps of bad stories about them a few years ago.

hueybot3000
08-07-2009, 07:08 PM
ive never had problems with them and ive been buying from them for 5 years, dad bought our first real pc from them back in 1998 and he had no problems either

pctek
08-07-2009, 08:16 PM
ive never had problems with them and ive been buying from them for 5 years

I've never had any problems with:
Capital+Merchant Business Investments Ltd
Lombard Finance
LDC Finance
Five Star Consumer Finance
Nathans Finance
Bridgecorp
Provincial Finance
National Finance
Western Bay Finance
Property Finance Securities
Numeria Finance

either, but loads of others have.

hueybot3000
08-07-2009, 08:21 PM
that seems more bitchy than relevant...

Paul.Cov
08-07-2009, 09:45 PM
Well, at work we had 6 new HP LCD monitors added 3 years ago. Now, 3 years on, 4 are dead. We're not talking bad pixels, we're talking zero image and melted components on the motherboards!
Even a bloomin fuse had the solder from it's contacts point melted away! These have some seriously bad components, or seriously bad design.

I don't have any experience with which to recommend a monitor, but I'd certainly not touch the cheap end of HP.

pctek
09-07-2009, 09:51 AM
that seems more bitchy than relevant...

It's to make the point that one person having bought a few things and not had a problem is NOT a recommendation.

When loads of people are complaining about a certain business and one or two are not, what would you base your opinion on?

People are always saying "I bought xxx and didn't have a problem". It's meaningless.

JJJJJ
09-07-2009, 10:20 AM
It's to make the point that one person having bought a few things and not had a problem is NOT a recommendation.

When loads of people are complaining about a certain business and one or two are not, what would you base your opinion on?

People are always saying "I bought xxx and didn't have a problem". It's meaningless.

Very well said.

linw
09-07-2009, 10:25 AM
And predicting the longevity of a new model based on the performance of an old model is a waste of time as well. A lot changes in 3 years or more.

At the end of the day, pick a highly recommenced retailer and take a punt. That's what life is about!

Declaration:- have just had an LCD (out-of-warranty) go bad and taken a punt on an LG from Computer Lounge. It does have a 3 yr warranty but after that you are in the hands of the gods as these things aren't cost effective to repair with parts and high labour costs.

Erayd
09-07-2009, 10:32 AM
What about buying one of these (http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?t=101286)? Very nice screen from a highly recommended retailer with free shipping :).