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effie c
02-07-2009, 05:49 PM
Hi

My apologies in advance if this has already been discussed--though I cannot find anything in a search of F1- ( I have been out of action for some time ) :eek:

What is the value of my present XP Pro 32 bit OS,as against installing 64 bit to create a further challenge brainwise?

In other words what is the difference between the two?

effie c

Speedy Gonzales
02-07-2009, 05:53 PM
Main diff 64 bit can use a LOT more ram than 32 bit. 32 bit programs will still work (if it doesnt install drivers that is). Otherwise the driver will also HAVE to be 64 bit, to work in 64 bit windows.

Only thing with 64 bit, make sure whatever devices you've got have 64 bit drivers (mobo/sound/lan/printer drivers MUST support / have 64 bit drivers). 32 bit drivers wont work

Here's the diff between vista 32 and 64 bit (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765). The mobo and CPU MUST support 64 bit. Or 64 bit wont install

Sweep
02-07-2009, 06:10 PM
I agree with Speedy.

Currently there are not a lot of Applications actually written for a 64 bit operating system.

What applications do you currently run?

Speedy Gonzales
02-07-2009, 06:26 PM
This site has a lot of 64 bit programs (http://www.start64.com/)

Altho, most of them arent free. But some small programs are. There's nothing wrong with running 32 bit programs, but you wont get the benefits of 64 bit, running 32 programs. The 32 bit limtations (for whatever 32 bit program) will apply. I'm not too worried about 32 bit programs, just the drivers (which so far is fine). Everything I've got has 64 bit drivers (However. the bluetooth adapter, I was using is MEANT to be 64 bit compatible, the drivers are, however the program that came on CD isnt). It cant find the adapter, after I've installed the drivers and the program.

Blam
02-07-2009, 06:27 PM
I recommend 64bit Vista. It may run slightly slower yes, but it has much wider and better driver support.

64bit offers more RAM, and for programs written specifically with a 64bit CPU and OS in mind, will run a bit faster.

Blam

HillBeast
02-07-2009, 07:41 PM
Both 32bit and 64bit have their own advantages and disadvantages.

The advantage of 64bit is that it supports so much more RAM (like thousands of terrabytes), but the problems are lack of driver support, and that in some cases 64bit can operate slower on small programs because it has to transfer twice as much data to tell the CPU the address, but most programs work around this, and I don't think it affects x86-64 as much as PPC.

Tuneznz
02-07-2009, 07:52 PM
It is a good thing to note, 64Bit OS will run 32 bit programs, for example chrome, iTunes are both 32bit programs that are currently running on my computer (A 64 bit environment/OS), The only issue I have ever had was with a winfast TV2000 XP RM as it doesn't have 64bit support. Personally, Go 64Bit if your hardware and all of it works with it.

GameJunkie
02-07-2009, 07:58 PM
It is a good thing to note, 64Bit OS will run 32 bit programs, for example chrome, iTunes are both 32bit programs that are currently running on my computer (A 64 bit environment/OS), The only issue I have ever had was with a winfast TV2000 XP RM as it doesn't have 64bit support. Personally, Go 64Bit if your hardware and all of it works with it.

itunes comes in a 64bit version doesnt it?

Speedy Gonzales
02-07-2009, 08:02 PM
Itunes works fine with Vista 64 bit, but NOT XP Pro 64 bit (unless you hack/tweak the setup file). Apple just decided to leave XP Pro 64 bit out of it (so you cant use it in x64). There is a 64 bit version of Itunes (but I think the drivers are 64 bit / when you rip / burn, the program itself isnt 64 bit).

Yup, there are no drivers for the Leadtek deluxe tuner, but there are drivers for the Expert tuner.

qazwsxokmijn
02-07-2009, 08:59 PM
I've had x64 Vista Ultimate for a few days now. To be honest I can't feel much of a difference in everyday tasks. Well maybe a tad faster, but nothing to wow about. On benchmark it's more noticeable but in real life....very slightly.

x64 games like Crysis and STALKER doesn't really show much difference then their x86 counterparts. There is slight improvement though, but I think it may be because now my PC can recognise all 4GB of RAM rather than only 3.25GB when I still ran x86 Vista.

pctek
02-07-2009, 09:09 PM
I recommend 64bit Vista. I

No.
Wait and get Win7 64bit.

Tuneznz
02-07-2009, 09:17 PM
Vista 32bit with SP1 shows the additional ram.

Blam
02-07-2009, 09:21 PM
No.
Wait and get Win7 64bit.

Well yeah, or that:p

Either way they're both miles better than XP..

SolMiester
02-07-2009, 10:30 PM
I recommend 64bit Vista. It may run slightly slower yes, but it has much wider and better driver support.

64bit offers more RAM, and for programs written specifically with a 64bit CPU and OS in mind, will run a bit faster.

Blam

Eh, x64 Vista is heaps faster than x86!.....why, well, for a start alot of the system files are available to the o/s, as the code has more resources, its runs faster.....period..

Blam
02-07-2009, 10:35 PM
I mean Vista is slightly slower than XP, not 64bit over 32bit:p

Tuneznz
02-07-2009, 10:55 PM
Wouldn't vista actually be faster if vista only had to load the same processes as xp, so in reality it just seams to boot slower because there is more having to be initialized?

Blam
02-07-2009, 11:08 PM
No. Vista IMO is slower because of the extra eye candy

Tuneznz
02-07-2009, 11:36 PM
Glorious eyecandy.... I really do like vista's GUI compared to xp at school the systems run the 98 style theme on the xp systems, also with W7 I have tried the Beta ?7001Build? and Absolutely HATED the taskbar, It was horrendously annoying (IMHO)

Chikara
02-07-2009, 11:48 PM
This article (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/64-bit-vista-install,2301.html) on Tom's Hardware may be worth a read too

effie c
03-07-2009, 09:47 AM
Hi all,

Thanks for all that

By the look of it - until I go 100% w 7, it is a waste of time to change

It was well worth the query though
:thanks

effie c

Cicero
03-07-2009, 05:35 PM
For me too.