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Q man
23-06-2009, 08:52 AM
The Mrs wants to get freeview and I haven't a clue which one to get.

Hopefully someone has one and can tell me if it's good or bad.

Hitech
23-06-2009, 09:28 AM
Hi just go to the red shed and you can get one there for around $200 or i think it may have come down now to $180 its a hills freeview decoder very easy to set up.

Or go to trade me and you can get one on there for $60 new although they arent freeview approved but they do receive freeview.

CYaBro
23-06-2009, 09:47 AM
Are you wanting to receive Freeview via satellite (DVB-S) or are you in an area that can receive Freeview|HD via UHF (DVB-T)?

Blam
23-06-2009, 11:18 AM
As CyaBro said, how are you planning to get freeview?

If you want to check your options:
http://www.freeviewnz.tv/all_about_freeview/coverage

Blam

Trev
23-06-2009, 11:52 AM
Zinwell or Hills are meant to be the best makes. I have a Zinwell ZMT-620HD freeview HD reciever which I can't complain about. Had it for about 6 weeks. It is one of the dearer models has Teletext and comes with a HDMI cable. Cheaper models don't come with a HDMI cable which you have to buy separately, thats if you are going HD. You can also get Freeview receivers with hard drives in them which allow you to record freeview. I saw a Zinwell one in Harvey Normans over the weekend for about $700.
:)

Q man
23-06-2009, 01:19 PM
Sorry been busy

To be honest I was hoping to receive via UHF but I haven't actually checked if I can get it, I am in pukekohe I will check now

I was looking at this model $300 DVB-TB01 my JC matthews, I am keen to see what the pvr setup is like

I didn't really want to spend more than $300

Blam
23-06-2009, 02:02 PM
Grab the cheap ones off TM. Around 110, and have a USB port for recording stuff.

wratterus
23-06-2009, 02:07 PM
Would recommend staying away from Zinwell. Every FV installer I've talked to says they are great when they work, but 40% - 60% failure rate is too high.

Cicero
23-06-2009, 03:01 PM
I wonder if the Hill's is via OZ crowd,they make good stuff!

Agent_24
23-06-2009, 03:14 PM
Get one that isn't $2.50 and made in China.

eg: one that will actually work for more than 5 months...

Strommer
23-06-2009, 07:50 PM
Qman, have a look at this thread: http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?t=100754

Metla is pleased with his Trademe Freeview (satellite), and I am thinking of getting one.

Q man
24-06-2009, 08:31 AM
Thanks for all the info

I ended up going with the jc mathews $250 free 2m HDMI cable and good warranty.
Easy as to setup and the difference in quality of picture is like night and day, even shortland street looked good.
Am going to try recording to a usb drive tonight and try playing some mp3s.

pine-o-cleen
24-06-2009, 04:50 PM
...even shortland street looked good....No amount of HD can make Shortland Street look good.

davidmmac
24-06-2009, 05:00 PM
No amount of HD can make Shortland Street look good.

:lol:

Totally agree

ubergeek85
24-06-2009, 05:57 PM
One thing with the JC Matthews boxes is that unless you use it, turn off instant rewind (or whatever it's called). I've found that when using this, which is enabled by default whenever a drive is in the USB port, the whole thing turns to molases, now/next epg starts playing up, and whatnot. Sometimes channels just stay blank.

Other than that, they're ok. If you want to, you can get the recorded files to play back on a PC, though it helps of you have a good setup (HD takes a bit o grunt to play back).

gary67
24-06-2009, 07:33 PM
Qman, have a look at this thread: http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?t=100754

Metla is pleased with his Trademe Freeview (satellite), and I am thinking of getting one.

Yeah I have that and put Metla onto them works fine, we can't get HD so don't need to be HD capable for us

mikebartnz
25-06-2009, 01:38 PM
No amount of HD can make Shortland Street look good.
You delete the o and r and insert an i.

sroby
25-06-2009, 02:05 PM
Get one that isn't $2.50 and made in China.

eg: one that will actually work for more than 5 months...

Good luck trying to find any electronics not now made in china :2cents: :2cents:
-exceptions may be expensive Euro made stuff, no guarantee of increased reliability with euro manufactured gear thou.....

Trev
25-06-2009, 02:30 PM
Zinwell Taiwan. http://www.zinwell.com.tw/
:)

Strommer
25-06-2009, 03:21 PM
You delete the o and r and insert an i.

:lol: :banana :lol:

Devie Boy
20-09-2009, 05:18 PM
I have bought a DIGISTAR 811U digital satellite receiver with PVR function on the 8th of September 2009, on Trade Me for $101 and it is going great guns. Cannot see why it should not do so for a very long time. The receivers without PVR are even cheaper. A very good mate of mine bought one over Trade Me in the $60 bracket about six months ago, and it is just great too. Why pay more?? :banana

Trev
20-09-2009, 05:55 PM
Would recommend staying away from Zinwell. Every FV installer I've talked to says they are great when they work, but 40% - 60% failure rate is too high.
Next Electronics who are the service agents for Zinwell say they are a good Freeview receiver.
:)

Chilling_Silence
21-09-2009, 08:50 AM
http://www.dtvs.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=67
http://www.dtvs.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=64&reviews_id=3

Excellent little box! To be honest it crashes a little, but it's relatively good in every other aspect. The EPG doesn't show the title for two weeks worth either, just the "slots" where the shows are.

For $250 to record in HD to a HDD, I'm stoaked ... Better that, than $1300-odd for a freeview approved one ;)

Cicero
21-09-2009, 09:02 AM
I am just about to pick up this,paid $161.

Freeview Zinwell Digital ZMT-620HD Receiver

ZMT-620HD is a Digital Terrestrial Receiver especially designed for Freeview with MHEG-5 interactivity. It is a true digital DTT receiver that is uncompromising in its ability to deliver High definition audiovisual quality into the home.

tvnz1, tvnz2, tv3, c4, maori tv, tvnz6, tvnz7, parliament tv and a few national radio stations are picked up by this receiver all in crystal clear picture. (subject to signal reception)

Plugs for: AV, Component, S-video, USB, RF aerial, coaxial, ethernet and HDMI cables.



Supplied with remote and HDMI cable

Fingers crossed all is well.

wratterus
21-09-2009, 09:02 AM
Next Electronics who are the service agents for Zinwell say they are a good Freeview receiver.
:)

If they are the service agents they will love 'em if they keep breaking! :p

Nah seriously though, they are a very good decoder, quick and have a great feature set. They just have a habit of dying rather regularly (or so I've been told).

Trev
21-09-2009, 09:51 AM
I am just about to pick up this,paid $161.

Freeview Zinwell Digital ZMT-620HD Receiver

ZMT-620HD is a Digital Terrestrial Receiver especially designed for Freeview with MHEG-5 interactivity. It is a true digital DTT receiver that is uncompromising in its ability to deliver High definition audiovisual quality into the home.

tvnz1, tvnz2, tv3, c4, maori tv, tvnz6, tvnz7, parliament tv and a few national radio stations are picked up by this receiver all in crystal clear picture. (subject to signal reception)

Plugs for: AV, Component, S-video, USB, RF aerial, coaxial, ethernet and HDMI cables.



Supplied with remote and HDMI cable

Fingers crossed all is well.

Thats a bargain. I payed $450 for mine from Noel Lemmings back in June. They are Freeview approved. The only things I don't like about it is that it only has a red led for power off no green one for power on and it is not very bright. My receiver sits in a cabinet with tinted glass doors and in the daylight you can't till whether it is off or on. When watching TV I turn the receiver off first then the TV. Another problem I find is the remote is not very directional. You have to be pointing it almost dead strait at the receiver for it to work. Minor problems.
:)

kenj
21-09-2009, 09:54 AM
I am just about to pick up this,paid $161.

Freeview Zinwell Digital ZMT-620HD Receiver

ZMT-620HD is a Digital Terrestrial Receiver especially designed for Freeview with MHEG-5 interactivity. It is a true digital DTT receiver that is uncompromising in its ability to deliver High definition audiovisual quality into the home.

tvnz1, tvnz2, tv3, c4, maori tv, tvnz6, tvnz7, parliament tv and a few national radio stations are picked up by this receiver all in crystal clear picture. (subject to signal reception)

Plugs for: AV, Component, S-video, USB, RF aerial, coaxial, ethernet and HDMI cables.



Supplied with remote and HDMI cable

Fingers crossed all is well.

Have a look at this. http://code.google.com/p/zimview/wiki/InstallingOleviaFirmwareOnZinwellSetTopBox It is a summation of the very long thread "Zinwell 620 HD" http://forum.dtvforum.co.nz/showthread.php?t=304

It works apparently - record HD on to a flash drive or a powered USB HDD.

Read the pro's and con's though.

Ken

Chilling_Silence
21-09-2009, 10:29 AM
If you're looking for uber-cheap, there's this on FirstIn today:
http://www.firstin.co.nz/product.asp?ProdID=1080

$79 :D

Cicero
21-09-2009, 11:57 AM
Have a look at this. http://code.google.com/p/zimview/wiki/InstallingOleviaFirmwareOnZinwellSetTopBox It is a summation of the very long thread "Zinwell 620 HD" http://forum.dtvforum.co.nz/showthread.php?t=304

It works apparently - record HD on to a flash drive or a powered USB HDD.

Read the pro's and con's though.

Ken

I now own it so will avoid looking for any downside,called head in sand.

R2x1
21-09-2009, 11:59 AM
"I don't wish to know that". (N. Seagoon, 1956)

Cicero
21-09-2009, 12:14 PM
Thats a bargain. I payed $450 for mine from Noel Lemmings back in June. They are Freeview approved. The only things I don't like about it is that it only has a red led for power off no green one for power on and it is not very bright. My receiver sits in a cabinet with tinted glass doors and in the daylight you can't till whether it is off or on. When watching TV I turn the receiver off first then the TV. Another problem I find is the remote is not very directional. You have to be pointing it almost dead strait at the receiver for it to work. Minor problems.
:)

How do I connec it?
All I have is the HDMI cable and the remote.
Thinking of any tuning.

kenj
21-09-2009, 12:47 PM
HDMI to TV

Coax to input (Must be able to receive Prime on coax)

Turn on power at wall

Read Trev's post re light

Follow your nose.

Manual is here if you need it http://www.freeviewnz.tv/setup_support/manuals#hd_manuals

Ken :thumbs:

Trev
21-09-2009, 02:49 PM
I actually got mine on the 14th of May. At lunch time today I switched on my Zinwell 620HD tuner and up popped a message that a software upgrade was available, select yes or no to do it now, and it also said it would take up to 5 mins to do. I selected yes and after about 5 mins it had done it. It did a reset and automatically scanned the channels etc. After it had finished it went back to the TV and up popped Software upgrade available so I selected yes and after about 30 seconds it reset itself and went back to the TV. Now every time I switch it on the software message pops up. Rang Next Electronics who said it shouldn't do that and send it back to them. Took it back to Noels who are sending it to Next Electronics in Auckland. BTW it did the software upgrade as the new software version was dated 2/Sept/2009.
:)

Cicero
21-09-2009, 03:29 PM
HDMI to TV

Coax to input (Must be able to receive Prime on coax)

Turn on power at wall

Read Trev's post re light

Follow your nose.

Manual is here if you need it http://www.freeviewnz.tv/setup_support/manuals#hd_manuals

Ken :thumbs:
Just to be clear Ken,
By coax we mean ariel?

wratterus
21-09-2009, 03:33 PM
Just to be clear Ken,
By coax we mean ariel?

Or rather coax from UHF aerial?

kenj
21-09-2009, 06:29 PM
Yes, I should have said a UHF aerial was required.

Ken :o

Cicero
22-09-2009, 07:54 AM
Yes, I should have said a UHF aerial was required.

Ken :o

Well you managed both to confuse and mislead this lad,thanks K.

The coaxial is for connecting to amplifier.

Trev
22-09-2009, 07:59 AM
You mean the optical outlet is to connect to an amplifier if it has a connection for one.
:)

Cicero
22-09-2009, 08:05 AM
You mean the optical outlet is to connect to an amplifier if it has a connection for one.
:)

I am talking of the machine in question,the one you and I have.
I am still thinking how to connect the thing.

I am thinking I will need another rf lead.

Trev
22-09-2009, 08:39 AM
The link that Ken posted for the manual is wrong, try this one, not Kens fault but Freeviews.
http://www.freeviewnz.tv/images/uploads/pdfs/ZMT-620HD_Manual_1022.pdf
It is quite easy to set up. Put the UHF aerial lead into the RF in socket and put the HDMI cable into the HDMI socket of the tuner and the other end into the back of your Sony LCD TV. The HDMI cable carries both sound and picture, that is all you have to do. If you want to put the sound through an ampifier then connect the sound up via the audio out sockets to your amplifier.
:)

Cicero
22-09-2009, 08:45 AM
The link that Ken posted for the manual is wrong, try this one, not Kens fault but Freeviews.
http://www.freeviewnz.tv/images/uploads/pdfs/ZMT-620HD_Manual_1022.pdf
It is quite easy to set up. Put the UHF aerial lead into the RF in socket and put the HDMI cable into the HDMI socket of the tuner and the other end into the back of your Sony LCD TV. The HDMI cable carries both sound and picture, that is all you have to do. If you want to put the sound through an ampifier then connect the sound up via the audio out sockets to your amplifier.
:)

Thanks Trev.
I have two HD recorders in the system,so I presume they need an ariel each?

Trev
22-09-2009, 09:04 AM
Yes and no. You could try daisy chaining them. Put the UHF aerial lead into the RF in of one then get another aerial lead and connect to the RF out socket of that recorder then put that lead into the RF in socket of the other recorder.
:)

Cicero
22-09-2009, 09:52 AM
Yes and no. You could try daisy chaining them. Put the UHF aerial lead into the RF in of one then get another aerial lead and connect to the RF out socket of that recorder then put that lead into the RF in socket of the other recorder.
:)

Sorry Kev,I meant as a daisy chain,but that title didn't come to mind.
Called a senior moment.:)

kenj
22-09-2009, 10:09 AM
Not much point hooking two recorders up as the Zinwell only has a single tuner. So, what you watch is what you record (twice if you daisy chain 2 recorders.
At this time, I am still using analogue to watch, digital to record - or vice versa. Like record TV1 news and watch TV3 news at the same time.

Am looking at Tivo when they come out in November.

Ken

Cicero
22-09-2009, 10:14 AM
The price to pay for getting decoder cheap.
If I had bought from shop they would have set it up for me.
I want two recorders to work,so will have to do what has to be done:confused:

sroby
22-09-2009, 12:42 PM
I just setup freeveiw in the HTPC.
A bit dissapointing: not many HD programs. Hardly seemed worth the effort (sky free-to-air Sat is only $18 per month)

Agent_24
24-09-2009, 07:11 PM
it is going great guns. Cannot see why it should not do so for a very long time.

I can think of one reason: crappy chinese electrolytic capacitors in the PSU.

for example: http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5903

If I bought one of those things and wanted it to last the first thing I'd do would be to replace the capacitors with Panasonic or another reputable Japanese brand...