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powerover
09-06-2009, 08:40 AM
Hi there guys, first of all thanks for helping decide me to my mobo and case, now I'm stuck on deciding which CPU and graphics card to buy.
here is a list of CPUs that my mobo supports:

http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/motherboards/6series/~/ecms.aspx/XFXCPUCompatibilityList-Intel.pdf

CPU:

for around $350 I can get a core 2 quad Q8200 at 2.33GHZ (note this CPU is NOT on that list..I'm quite stunned actually, but anyway will it still work with my mobo?)

for around $337 I can get a core 2 dual E8400 at 3GHZ

which one should I get? should I go for the number of cores or speed?


Now here comes the graphics card:

My criteria:

it must be SLI ready

$300-ish...preferably some where around the $250 mark (I will only go down and not up this time :P)



here is what I have in mind, it is a bit too expensive tho:
http://www.playtech.co.nz/product.php?action=showdetail&id=7261

any suggestions?

Hey once again thanks soo much for your time and help, it is much appreciated :thumbs:

Speedy Gonzales
09-06-2009, 08:47 AM
So whats the mobo

pctek
09-06-2009, 08:57 AM
For gaming the single most important component is the graphics card.

Therefore you should get the highest spec card you can afford.
And take a cut on the CPU if you have to.

Gobe1
09-06-2009, 09:14 AM
Yeah i would go for the core 2 duo for gaming and get that 250 gtx would kick ar se

qazwsxokmijn
09-06-2009, 09:18 AM
E8400 + 4870 is what I would get. Just make sure the E8400 is the E0 stepping.

powerover
09-06-2009, 09:20 AM
So whats the mobo

Hi there speedy,

it is a 680i SLI mobo from that list.

powerover
09-06-2009, 09:21 AM
E8400 + 4870 is what I would get. Just make sure the E8400 is the E0 stepping.

whoa?? slow down there my friend I not as good as you :)

what is E0 stepping??

correct me if im wrong but 4870??? isn't it ATI???

thnks for the reply tho.. :)

qazwsxokmijn
09-06-2009, 09:42 AM
whoa?? slow down there my friend I not as good as you :)

what is E0 stepping??

correct me if im wrong but 4870??? isn't it ATI???

thnks for the reply tho.. :)
Steppings:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/29

So say E0 stepping vs C1 - E0 is better. Overclocks better and runs slightly cooler.

4870 is ATI. Did you want to SLI down the track?

powerover
09-06-2009, 11:01 AM
Yeah. I want to SLI it sometime down the road, so it must be SLI compatible :P

Thnks for your info tho, cheers.

:thumbs:

SolMiester
09-06-2009, 12:23 PM
SLI and Xfire are NOT viable upgrade paths IMHO. By the time you are ready to buy the 2nd card, new DX API's are released, and the card your after has been superceded, or are just a pain in the a$$ to keep running. Dont fall for the marketing hype.

Next generation cards are usually 80-90% of the power of previous generation SLI\Xfire cards, run better, support the newer DX API and also usually the around the same price as the 1st card you bought.....

Besides which, UNLESS you are running native Full HD on your LCD with AA\AF, most single cards will do the trick.

Edit: Cost for the motherboard in also more expensive

pctek
09-06-2009, 12:41 PM
I want to SLI it sometime down the road, so it must be SLI compatible :P




Then get a 280GTX.
But its not worth it, 2 cards for twice the price for a small performance gain, no where near double.
I tried it once and wouldn't bother again.

dugimodo
09-06-2009, 01:44 PM
the only Nvidia Card in that price range worth considering is the GTS 250 which is pretty much a repackaged 9800GTX+

For CPU I'd suggest the Dual core if Budget is your main concern as most games still dont utilise 4 cores so a faster clocked Dual core can outperform a slower clocked quad, However my feeling is that this will change more and more in the future as Quad is becoming standard in the next Gen of CPU's

powerover
09-06-2009, 02:30 PM
yeah dugimodo, I agree with you on this one, the reason I am considering the quad core is because things will change in the future and more and more things will use more and more cores....so I should probably get that quad core cpu and 250 GTS then...
but that quad core CPU is not listed on the cpu compatibility list...which is weird....

could any one tell if my mobo will still work with the Q8200??

powerover
09-06-2009, 02:46 PM
SLI and Xfire are NOT viable upgrade paths IMHO. By the time you are ready to buy the 2nd card, new DX API's are released, and the card your after has been superceded, or are just a pain in the a$$ to keep running. Dont fall for the marketing hype.

Next generation cards are usually 80-90% of the power of previous generation SLI\Xfire cards, run better, support the newer DX API and also usually the around the same price as the 1st card you bought.....

Besides which, UNLESS you are running native Full HD on your LCD with AA\AF, most single cards will do the trick.

Edit: Cost for the motherboard in also more expensive

thnks SolMiester.

I am running native full HD on my LCD, but I don't know how to do the anti-aliasing stuff tho......

qazwsxokmijn
09-06-2009, 03:33 PM
could any one tell if my mobo will still work with the Q8200??
Apparently not, but then I read some users who use Q8200 with the chipset. You probably would need to flash the BIOS to the latest version though.

I personally would not get the Q8200. It's not a very good overclocker, not like the Q6600. The lowest quad core I'd go for is Q6600, and Q9400 is the next in line.

Blam
09-06-2009, 04:48 PM
I personally would not get the Q8200. It's not a very good overclocker, not like the Q6600. The lowest quad core I'd go for is Q6600, and Q9400 is the next in line.

+1 to that, the Q6600 is great for overclocking.

But if you don't plan to OC, the Q8200 is quite good, runs cool and is slightly faster at stock speeds.

If you're going to game, go with a dual like the E8400. E0 stepping as mentioned earlier.

Within the next 12 months or so games will still use only 1-2 cores IMO...even if they start to use 4 your E8400 should easily cope with it.

Blam

powerover
09-06-2009, 05:01 PM
+1 to that, the Q6600 is great for overclocking.

But if you don't plan to OC, the Q8200 is quite good, runs cool and is slightly faster at stock speeds.

If you're going to game, go with a dual like the E8400. E0 stepping as mentioned earlier.

Within the next 12 months or so games will still use only 1-2 cores IMO...even if they start to use 4 your E8400 should easily cope with it.

Blam

Thnks heaps Blam. I am not planning to over clock or anything. I am not very good at stuff like that. So I guess the E8400 it is then......

do you think this case can swallow the 250GTX card I listed earlier in this thread? apparently this card is a huge beast...
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=7682
I really the temperature probe it comes with. handy..

and by the way can you overclock the E8400??

Blam
09-06-2009, 05:14 PM
Most probably. Most mid tower cases should fit GTX cards.

and the E8400 is definetly overclockable...mines running at 3.8ghz with a $40 cooler:D

Blam

powerover
09-06-2009, 05:18 PM
shooooooooot......teach me how to do that stuff after my final exam.. :D

so I shall get:
the 250GTX card
the E8400
the NZXT case listed earlier......

ummmm....

I thought only the extreme series can be overclocked, all others have some part of it locked (front bus speed or whatever) so you can't over clock them...I'm wrong??

Blam
09-06-2009, 05:28 PM
Yeah I guess....but I would invest in an after market cooler later on if you plan to OC.

Personally for around 200 I wouldn't get that case, I would go for the CM Storm.

Blam

powerover
09-06-2009, 07:30 PM
the scout you mean?? yeah..I still thinking...can't.... decide.... :(