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Supertrooper
24-11-2004, 01:08 PM
I'm setting up a new USB 2.0 external case for someone, who up till now has been using a similar setup, only it was USB 1.0 (1.1?).

Anyway, using the old USB 1.0 case, he was able to use a hard drive that was formatted with NTFS.

When I put that hard drive into the new USB 2.0 case, it won't read it - and the instructions say that USB 2.0 can not see an NTFS partition.

Anyone know how to get around this?

The reason for upgrading to a USB 2.0 case is to be able to boot off this drive.

Murray P
24-11-2004, 01:10 PM
Whats the caddy disk formatted as Fat32?

Supertrooper
24-11-2004, 01:13 PM
No, the caddy disk is NTFS. Using the old caddy which was USB 1.0 it was able to see the drive.
When I put the drive into the new caddy which is USB 2.0 it can't see it.

Therein lies the catch. I could just format the drive as FAT32 but Windows 2000 (his OS) won't format a 120 Gb drive as FAT32, only NTFS!

Spacemannz
24-11-2004, 01:22 PM
Does 2000 see it in Control Panel / Admin tools / Computer Management / Disk Management?? If it does, see if you can format it there, or partition it thru there.

Thats if 2k has this option. I dont know.

Murray P
24-11-2004, 01:24 PM
So, it's USB trouble shooting you want, not the drive. Look for drivers and win2k USB 2 patches/workarounds.

That artificial 120GB limit MS put in is a pain. I think I read about a hack for that somewhere.

Supertrooper
24-11-2004, 01:30 PM
2000 can see it in Disk Management, but won't let me format it as FAT32 (max partition size for Win2000 under FAT32 is 32Gb).

If I try to format it as FAT32 it will start, get all the way through, then bring up an error saying "Volume size too big".

Supertrooper
24-11-2004, 01:30 PM
Thanks Murray - I thought that might be the case - on the hunt as we speak...

Spacemannz
24-11-2004, 01:42 PM
What brand is the 120gb hdd?? Seagate? Western Digital? Samsung?

Graham L
24-11-2004, 02:06 PM
My guess is that it's not USB 2.0 which can't "see" NTFS. It will be the embedded software ("OS") in the box. ;-)

Murray P
24-11-2004, 03:05 PM
> My guess is that it's not USB 2.0 which can't "see"
> NTFS. It will be the embedded software ("OS") in the
> box. ;-)


I suspect your right Graham.

Supertrooper, have a shuftee around....,,, ta da ta daaa............ it'ssssss.... USB MAN (http://www.usbman.com/),
who's got OS specific resourses and if he hasen't got an answer there will be a link with one.

MORK
24-11-2004, 03:27 PM
Hi don't know if this will help but had a similar problem with a 200gb drive using USB 2 in a caddy and mine did not support ntfs ,although not a problem as I needed to use it on winME, with help from this forum I got it sorted ok
ended up connecting to XP machine and formating Fat32 and partitoning into 32gb chunks reinstalled in cady and has worked fine since

Graham L
24-11-2004, 03:28 PM
This may be the only fix. If you can't boot from a 32GB partition, your OS is too big. :D

Murray P
24-11-2004, 04:31 PM
> This may be the only fix. If you can't boot from a
> 32GB partition, your OS is too big. :D

Graham, would it not be [b]too big for it's boot[/] ;)

Supertrooper
29-11-2004, 12:29 PM
Thanks everyone for the comments and answers - USBMan is an interesting place, found a few answers there too.

Supertrooper
29-11-2004, 12:30 PM
Hard drive is a Maxtor 120Gb.

Strange thing is that the old USB 1.1 caddy will see the NTFS disk but the newer USB 2.0 won't.

Crazy.

Supertrooper
29-11-2004, 12:40 PM
Just thought I would crosspost this here from USBMan - regarding booting from USB:

"WIndows 2000 and XP do not support booting the OS from USB because USB is not a recognized primary storage media - only secondary."