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merlin-nz
23-11-2003, 09:52 AM
Hi people,

A wee query, Mrs merlin would like to know the capicty of her fridge/freezer.

Now I know there is a way of measuring this space, but it elodes me at the moment. :8}

Some help please.

cheers merlin-nz ;-)

mark.p
23-11-2003, 10:13 AM
Lenght x breadth x hight sould do it. Inside the cavity of cause ;)

mark.p
23-11-2003, 10:14 AM
Mist us te spill chicka mo offen

Elephant
23-11-2003, 10:39 AM
And then we want to know if measured in Cubic feet, Cubic inches or even cubic meters.

For me it just doesn't matter so long as I can get the required amount of food and drink in there. :-)

I'm not planning on putting a whole Cow, Sheep, or Pig in there real soon now.

Don't think any of the above will fit.

merlin-nz
23-11-2003, 10:48 AM
Hi Elephant,

Mrs Merlin tells me cubic litres. ?:|

cheers merlin-nz ;-)

godfather
23-11-2003, 11:20 AM
I litre (no such thing as a cubic litre as a litre is already volume) = 100mm x 100mm x 100mm
or
10cm x 10cm x 10cm

10 x 10 x 10 (cm) = 1,000 cubic cm = 1000 cc = 1 litre

so

[height (cm) x width (cm) x depth (cm)] divided by 1,000 = litres

Elephant
23-11-2003, 11:23 AM
1 cubic meter = 10 cm x 10 cm x 10 cm.

So get out a tape and measure inside the fridge in centimeters. I wish you luck there. Don't forget to take out the trays. :-)

I suggest you do the measurements in millimeters and I'll do the Math.

One thousand millimeters to the meter.

We need three measurements in each compartment.

Don't forget the butter compartment if you have one. Ice compartment and so on.

neddy
23-11-2003, 11:42 AM
>>>1 cubic meter = 10 cm x 10 cm x 10 cm.

Correction needed
1 cubic metre = 1m x 1m x 1m
=100cm x 100cm x 100 cm

I would measure in metres (decimals thereof), then find the volume in cubic metres (LxWxH)
Finally divide by 1000 to arrive at litres.
cheers
Neddy

mikebartnz
23-11-2003, 11:44 AM
Unless I learnt incorrectly 1 cubic meter = 1m x 1m x 1m

merlin-nz
23-11-2003, 11:49 AM
Hi Goddie and elephant,

Yes we did it that way and now have the volume.

These new devices these days don't have a thing on them to tell you the volume, the old fridge/freezers did.

Anyway thanks for the help, have made a note goddie so if it cames up :D again I'll remember :8}

cheers merlin-nz ;-)

neddy
23-11-2003, 11:49 AM
>>>Finally divide by 1000 to arrive at litres.
oops, that should be MULTIPLY cu.m. by 1000 to get litres !!!

Elephant
23-11-2003, 11:50 AM
Whoops. At least I was on the right track. I was thinking more about the difficulty of measuring ( usually ) the irregular shape inside a fridge.

And why bother?

If the Cow won't fit then get a bigger fridge!!! :-)

And/Or another freezer.

Elephant
23-11-2003, 11:56 AM
I STILL want to know the cubic measurement of a Cow though.

The only way I think I can do that is push it into a tank of water and measure water displacenent. We can't have any bits of the Cow floating either. Does anyone know how long a Cow can hold its' breath under water?

neddy
23-11-2003, 12:03 PM
About a moo-nit

Elephant
23-11-2003, 12:12 PM
Yep. Sounds about right! Have you actually tested this on any cows yet?
If so have any come back to moo - n about?

:-)

godfather
23-11-2003, 12:20 PM
1 large alive cow = ~ 600 kg on the hoof

assume sg of 0.8? (total guess) and the cow would have a mass of about 750 litres. (Note that at this stage the cow is alive, and a little concerned)

subtract 40 litres of blood, gives 690 litres dry weight.
(Note that by this stage the cow is either dead or very close to it).

"User serviceable" parts would be about half this figure, on the assumption you are not partial to eating skin bones and offal.
(Note that by this stage the cow is very dead, and you have a large mess to clean up)

Elephant
23-11-2003, 12:37 PM
Well I was thinking about putting the said cow into a woodchipper.

If it was me ( as a cow )I'd be VERY concerned as I was being led there!!!

Pheonix
23-11-2003, 01:04 PM
From fridges to cows on a computer help forum....ya got to love it :D
Made my day.

Thomas
23-11-2003, 01:24 PM
Due to the above posts,I am trying to get a cow to lay down in the bath and it is hopeless,I will try the dog next,will let you know how long it can hold it's breath.

Graham L
23-11-2003, 01:26 PM
Lay it on its back on the scales. Fill it with water. 1 litre = 1 kg. :D

Terry Porritt
23-11-2003, 02:14 PM
Since this has already gone way off track, I'll bring it back on again :)

A much more accurate way of getting the volume of a fridge is to lay it on its back, fill it with water at 4 deg C, then weigh the fridge. Then empty the water all out, dry the fridge, and re-weigh it.

The difference in weight in Kilograms will be the volume in litres (or liters if you are German).

Of course you can also get a cow to lie down in the water catch the water that spills over and get the density of the cow.

This was first discovered by one Archimoodees, who leapt out of his bath, ran naked through the streets crying " Mooreka, mooreka" in Greek of course.

Fire-and-Ice
23-11-2003, 03:03 PM
> 1 large alive cow = ~ 600 kg on the hoof...............

> .........."User serviceable" parts would be about half this
> figure, on the assumption you are not partial to
> eating skin bones and offal.
> (Note that by this stage the cow is very dead, and
> you have a large mess to clean up)


If one had a steer instead of a cow I am convinced this theory would then be just a load of bull. ;-)

Terry Porritt
23-11-2003, 03:31 PM
Oh dear didnt notice Grahams post which pre-emptied mine. Never mind, actually Archimoodees was lying in his fridgidarium (made by Fisher &Paykel of course), cooling his ardour when he made his great discovery.

Elephant
23-11-2003, 03:42 PM
Well I'd like to combine the methods we have here.

Lay the fridge on its back and get the tare weight. Push cow through woodchipper. Pour cow into fridge. Turn temp way down.

Note:- Wait until cow fully frozen before making fridge upright or your floor will have lots of leaked bits all over. Liquid nitrogen poured in may assist in this.

After this you can subtract the tare weight from the gross weight giving the Kilograms of cow in the fridge.



Just off to Mitre 10 to get a chipper. Back later..

:-)

Elephant
23-11-2003, 03:45 PM
I hope he didn't have certain parts put through the woodchipper.

Makes my eyes glaze over just thinking about it.

Fire-and-Ice
23-11-2003, 04:57 PM
> I hope he didn't have certain parts put through the
> woodchipper.
>
> Makes my eyes glaze over just thinking about it.


Elephant, you didn't emigrate to NZ from the US to escape this sort of fate did you? The Yank's fridges would easily hold an elephant and a half and if you were living there you could be forgiven for being very worried. ;-)

[pre]Oh how I love this site and its off topic threads. :D

Elephant
23-11-2003, 05:33 PM
Not from the US.

I'm a fifth generation Kay one double U one.

To put this back on topic....

Just opened our Fridge to find a label under the freezer door which says
L 271. Thank goodness for that. Now I have to work out what part of 271 liters is Fridge and what part Freezer. We just have the common (or garden) variety upright Fridge / Freezer... So..... Pour half the cow into top half and weigh what is left over maybe???

All comments welcome.

Whoops.... Now have to find a cow.

Jester
23-11-2003, 05:53 PM
You could try looking on the manufacturers web site, eg

F & P (http://www.fisherpaykel.co.nz/Products/Refrigerators/Specifications.html)

Simpson (http://www.simpson.com.au/product/search/)

or, find a comparable size and base your measurements on that. I see that Simpson does a SR255 with a 74 litre freezer Here (http://www.simpson.com.au/product/display/model/SR255A)

J
:D

Elephant
23-11-2003, 06:11 PM
If I really wanted to know then I guess I could do that.

In the meantime... What do I do with this very worried cow I have?

Being as I live in the South Waikato it wasn't difficult to find one. There were about 500 only a few doors down the road.

It took a while to convince it to come to my place. It wanted to know whether I had enough hay or silage for dinner tonight.

The said cow wasn't invited FOR dinner. It was going to BE dinner.

I think I must have a foreign cow as it doesn't seem to understand when I talk to it.

Anyway, the cow is in the back garden presently. Well the grass needed mowing!!!

Do you think the cow should go through the chipper head first or rump first?

I HOPE you realise that this is joking.

I don't mind these off topic threads either. :-)

mark.p
23-11-2003, 06:16 PM
Hope it isn't a holy cow?

mikebartnz
23-11-2003, 06:21 PM
A Farmer shopped around for a new car and became thoroughly disgusted with the pricing systems, what with all the talk about optional equipment and extras, but he settled on his purchase. A few days later the dealer who sold him the car arrived at the farm to buy a cow for his small property. The Farmer sized up the position and quickly scribbled the bill.
Basic Cow $200
Two-tone exterior $145
Extra stomach $75
Product storage compartment $60
Dispensing device (4 spigot at $10 each) $40
Genuine Cow-hide upholstery $125
Automatic fly swatter $35
Dual horns $15
Total, exclusive of tax and delivery $695

Elephant
23-11-2003, 06:32 PM
Eeeerrrkkkk. Didn't notice any halo so therefore not ( I think )

Maybe I should sprinkle holy water over which may help with making gravy as well???

Elephant
23-11-2003, 06:53 PM
A Farmer shopped around for a new car and became thoroughly disgusted with the pricing systems, what with all the talk about optional equipment and extras, but he settled on his purchase. A few days later the dealer who sold him the car arrived at the farm to buy a cow for his small property. The Farmer sized up the position and quickly scribbled the bill.
Basic Cow $200
Fair enough!
Two-tone exterior $145
Most cows have more than two tones inless they are Freesian which mostly seem to be Black and White. Jersey seem to come in multishades of brown and white.... Charge extra for a Jersey then.
Extra stomach $75
Cows have just one stomach but four compartments. Charging for extra compartments is fine so Farmer should have added $75 x 3

Product storage compartment $60
Udder codswallop. :-)

Dispensing device (4 spigot at $10 each) $40

Genuine Cow-hide upholstery $125

Automatic fly swatter $35
Ever noticed that quite a few cows have been de tailed and de horned
Dual horns $15

You forgot four wheel drive as well which I'm sure is a feature. They can go where I wouldn't take my car.

Total, exclusive of tax and delivery $695

Nice one though. I love it.

godfather
23-11-2003, 06:56 PM
> Eeeerrrkkkk. Didn't notice any halo so therefore not

Actually holy cows have a hay-lo, not a halo as I udder stand it.

Thomas
23-11-2003, 07:00 PM
Could i suggest you take the cow back from whence it came,I feel I must remind you that the question was,how do you find the volume inside a fridge,I can;t see why the cow should pay the price for our tendency to go off topic.
Some lesser mortals get upset at this propensity,but I mean to say,killing a flamin cow,what if we had used a elephant as an analogy!

Terry Porritt
23-11-2003, 07:29 PM
Yes Thomas we must bring a bit of sanity back into this thread. Two valid methods for finding the volume of a Fridgidaire have been propounded, one using linear measurements, and one by filling the fridge with water.

The problem with linear measurements is that it doesnt take account of the radii in the corners of the fridge of of trays, ledges, and other features.

Thats why Archimoodees method is so clever. and by the way, for those that studied Classical Greek at school, as Im sure so many of you did, what he actually shouted as he ran naked and inspired through the
streets of Athens chased by an irate cow was : "ٌّميف"

Terry Porritt
23-11-2003, 07:32 PM
PF1 cant reproduce greek character map, pathetic.
The nearest then is : upeka

Thomas
23-11-2003, 07:51 PM
Old Terr never quite gets the story right.


A team from India went shooting on location
in Syracuse, in the picturesque island of Sicily.

Among the team was Hindi actress Rekha.

They were invited to the palace and King Heiron
hosted a great banquet in their honour.

After the banquet was over, and the guests had
dispersed, came a great hue and cry
that the King's new crown was missing.

Soldiers were sent out with pikes and halberds,
to find the daring thief who had stolen the King's crown.

Sight-seeing and window-shopping,
Rekha was strolling along, when suddenly a man,
in a hurry, came running along. He thrust a parcel
into Rekha's hands and disappeared. Behind him
appeared a party of pikemen in hot pursuit.

Not wishing to be caught with the goods, in confusion,
Rekha ducked into the first open doorway. She opened
the parcel and, lo and behold, it was the King's lost crown.
Though it looked massive, it was, strangely, quite light.
A close examination of the crown told her the reason:
it was made of lightweight plastic and the gold was just a
thin covering. No wonder the King was anxious to get it back.
He was afraid of anybody finding out that he was reduced to
wearing an imitation crown.

She looked around. She was standing in a bath-house.
She threw the fake crown into a filled bath and turned to go.
But then, she heard her name called. It was Archimedes,
a philosopher she had been introduced to at the banquet.

He pointed an accusing finger at her. "You...Rekha! You stole
the crown!" "But wait! I didn't, and anyway, this crown
is a fake!" cried Rekha. But already, the philosopher had
reached the door.

In desperation, Rekha clutched at Archimedes, in an effort
to hold him back. There was a r-r-rip and his bathrobe
came away.

And that is why, the history books say, the great philosopher
Archimedes streaked through the street, shouting "Rekha".



To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many, research"

Terry Porritt
23-11-2003, 08:07 PM
Now why didnt I know that? :8}

Martina
23-11-2003, 08:39 PM
Best OT for a long time - well done guys

M...

beetle
23-11-2003, 08:45 PM
man did i miss out on this yhread big time, way out in the field missed the ball altogether on this one....or should i say cow on this one? and man what udder nonsense did i miss out on....

now i have a pool to check this measure ment thing, takes 2 1/2 hours to fill from water mains in the street so how much litres per minute? and what size would pool have or litre's?

and id fit more than one cow or one fridge in here guys!!!!

so when does the truck arrive?

but alas at moment have no grass to feed these animals????

so we may need to truck in some hay or something?
but i have a freezer :D 18 cubic litres i think?

:D
beetle

Elephant
23-11-2003, 09:04 PM
>Actually holy cows have a hay-lo, not a halo as I udder stand it.

But only in the winter surely? I'm feeding my new one on moos ly for the moment. That afore it gets to look at the woodchipper. 271 litres is not going to be near enough.

:-)

mark.p
23-11-2003, 09:09 PM
We need to know the flow rate at which the hosometer is functioning at beetle.......... Good ol pints per minute will do.

Elephant
23-11-2003, 09:12 PM
Fine by me using an Elephant. If you want me to pop into the woodchipper that's fine. I'm only 84 Kg on the hoove as it were so I won't need a new fridge.

If you are talking about the Elephant ( animal ) it will probably shout out as you are eating the proceeds as hamburger, " I won't forget this!!!"

beetle
23-11-2003, 09:17 PM
been informed approx 100 litres a minute......
no idea about pints sorry.....

fire hose size, does that help?

?:|

beetle

Elephant
23-11-2003, 09:25 PM
OK... Chuck in the pool two Elephants, two Cows, your freezer and one Beetle. Fill the pool to the top and time how much less it takes to fill the pool.

Make sure all above items are securely fixed to the bottom of said pool before filling. Don't want any floaters do we? It will upset the Math.

I was waiting for you to pop in.

:p

godfather
23-11-2003, 09:30 PM
100 x 60 x 2.5 = 15,000 litres

= 5m long x 3m wide x 1m deep.

How many cows can you fit in the pool? (Hint, you need to take the elephant out first)

[pre] Small pool, makes a note to stay at another motel next time

beetle
23-11-2003, 09:31 PM
Pop in ? in pool or pf1?

yeah well i missed this one big time, had visitors so puter was not even on.......sigh....but im here now, and doing some catching up big time i see......

and beetles float on the top E? they always get caught in the filter so they must float? and i aint getting in that pool at mo toooooo cold....:D

and no i dont do bikini's either..........shudddddder.......:p

and where will i source a Elephant???let alone two?

i can do cows, thats not a prob..... just need to order it first....

:D

beetle

Elephant
23-11-2003, 09:34 PM
If this helps there are 1.76 pints in a liter. Go back to getting a Pint of milk and the powers that be gave you 600ml in the old milk bottle.

Back to the sodding cow again!

beetle
23-11-2003, 09:34 PM
HWMO says....

ok pool depth at edge is 1.2metres deep slopes to 1.4 metres deep in middle .....
kidney shaped pool approx 15meters long by 6.5 meters wide....approx 42 thousand litres of water.....

ok any thing else?

:p

beetle

Elephant
23-11-2003, 10:00 PM
If the corners of the pool are not rounded then maybe I could hide there without Beetle chucking me out. I'm moo sing on this!

OK15,000 divided by 600 = 25.

Our cows in the South Waikato are heavier so it may be somewhat less.

Especially if I manage to hide.

YMMV

Thomas
23-11-2003, 10:02 PM
Honestly,what a tendency to digress off topic,Godfather is the only one apart from me who has kept to volumes and i think most of us would have some difficulty in seeing what his last calculalation pertains to.

Archimedes will be spinning in his grave.

Elephant
23-11-2003, 10:06 PM
OK... I'll just hide at the bottom.. Forget about emptying the pool though as I'll probably be sitting on the plughole. Me and my cow and fridge.

Ummmm, can I bring my cat? It won't take up much room.

:-)

beetle
23-11-2003, 10:09 PM
um YMMV ??? your mileage may vary???

ROTBA


starting to get a little foggy round here on the brain.....

the pool is kidney shape E so it has no corners.....?:|

and how the hell a elephant can hide i have no idea... :p


beetle

beetle
23-11-2003, 10:11 PM
ahem ! and have you never slightly Off Topiced the Topic T????

pull the other one...:D :p

beetle

Thomas
23-11-2003, 10:12 PM
If the water decides to evacuate whilst you are sitting on plug hole Ele',you become mootilated,so be warned.;)

Elephant
23-11-2003, 10:17 PM
>Honestly,what a tendency to digress off topic,Godfather is the only one >apart from me who has kept to volumes and i think most of us would >have some difficulty in seeing what his last calculalation pertains to.

The thread started Off Topic so what do we do now? Do Re OT OT?
I can see what Godfather is pointing at but I may have hijacked this thread and this will be my fault.


>Archimedes will be spinning in his grave.
He wasn't last time I looked

beetle
23-11-2003, 10:19 PM
LOL

pool party is it? no probs with cat i guess, but elephants have to stay outside the units....

we've just redecorated, we dont need any more alterations of that kind...:D

ill put the umbrels up and vote for a sunny day, ...

:)

beetle

beetle
23-11-2003, 10:21 PM
:(

Elephant
23-11-2003, 10:36 PM
Eeeerkk. I promise not to wear my Bikini either. I will just hide in my unit.

To get back on topic..... If I actually wore a Bikini how much of the top bit would I fill?

Its possible that I may not fill a lot of the bottom bit either.

How much water does a 36C cup hold?

Thomas
23-11-2003, 10:39 PM
>The thread started Off Topic so what do we do now? Do Re OT OT?
>I can see what Godfather is pointing at but I may have hijacked this >thread and this will be my fault.

I feel a absolute cad,I should have made clear,that was said tongue in cheek,sorry Elle'

beetle
23-11-2003, 10:48 PM
um i dont know if i want to see a elephant wearing a bikini???

and if you wearing a kini? what does that make you? um

after talking to you on pf 1 heaps i woulda said you um hell.....dont go there..

i dont wear Kinis and i am a female but what i imagine you in when wearing a kini...... dont go there either....

ok enough, i seemed to have stumbled upon a non beetle fixit bit, if you are male ? or female wearing bikini? males have not enough curves i guess, while females have er um more molding to them....:p

not that im saying you are either, ither or other :p

hell ! im off this topic now...
before i put me foot in it any further, and drown my self in um deep water :p

beetle

Winston001
24-11-2003, 02:52 PM
[i] Disclaimer : All creatures used in the making of this thread were virtual entities. No cows, elephants, beetles, or godparents were
harmed during this production.

Unfortunately a Fisher and Paykel C370 and Thomas's bathtub did suffer some damage but are recovering nicely.

beetle
26-11-2003, 04:37 PM
or sheep?

Elephant keeps talking about sheep?

next thing SPCA will be round to Elephants house's saying hello, i hear you have an elephant, cow or sheep that is being badly treated?
:p
saying what do you use that woodchipper for then ?
:D

what a saga this one has turned out to be..
even getting into other threads,

LOL
was a goodie,

beetle

Winston001
31-10-2004, 07:02 PM
And tell us Merlin - did you ever work out the answer for Mrs Merlin? Perhaps some of our newer members can help.

Enjoy :D

george12
31-10-2004, 07:29 PM
How on earth do you do that little writing godfather? As far as I know HTML code was disallowed a few years ago when I discovered you could do, IFRAMEs, vbscript, size changes, close off the site's tables (kill the whole page in other words), images etc.

<font size=5>I bet this won't work!</font>. Nope, it doesn't.

Perhaps this is the effect godfather used. Nope.

How does he do it then?.

George

beetle
06-05-2005, 05:21 PM
Did you ever work it out George? little words?

and the fridge saga is it still going...:p

:illogical

beetle

Jen
06-05-2005, 05:24 PM
Let me be a grumpy cow here. Do you really need to drag up every old post you can find? Very much getting to be overkill ...

Moved thread to correct forum.