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robsonde
15-05-2010, 10:16 AM
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/3701122/Father-despairs-at-delays-in-urgent-surgery

what kind of third world do we live in?

allblack
15-05-2010, 10:20 AM
But at least there's enough money for Treaty claims.

Phew.

Just imagine...

prefect
15-05-2010, 10:24 AM
Yep NATO response in NZ, blame the government for everything.

Roscoe
15-05-2010, 10:50 AM
It has been our experience that if you want surgery, you go private. Effectively, that means that you pay twice but at least you are assured of having it done.

Unfortunately it is too late for that (to go private) for this unfortunate girl. That's the way the system (doesn't) work.

WalOne
15-05-2010, 05:35 PM
Our hearts must go out to this young girl and her family. :(

martynz
15-05-2010, 06:37 PM
Just a few days ago figures from the OECD showed NZ as having the lowest tax take.
You can't have it both ways, low tax and a lst class public health service.

kenj
15-05-2010, 07:56 PM
Do you work for the Gummit marty?

Ken ;)

martynz
15-05-2010, 08:18 PM
Do you work for the Gummit marty?

Ken ;)

No.
And your point is?

kenj
15-05-2010, 09:42 PM
Don't know really.... you just sounded a bit Phill Goffish

Ken

qazwsxokmijn
15-05-2010, 10:21 PM
Well, at least Graeme Burton got his prosthetic legs for killing innocent people. Imagine his hardship!

Renmoo
16-05-2010, 09:40 AM
TL;DR

The fact remains that New Zealand has a health system that can't possibly satisfy every individual in the nation.

The DHBs (ADHB in this case) operates on the basis of funding from the Ministry of Health. Subsequently, the DHB invest the fund according to Crown Funding Agreement, which is a set of goals that are designed to allow maximal benefit using this limited pot of money (i.e. Cost Utility Analysis --> Minimal money spent to improve Quality of Life). The money is also used to operate hospitals.

Performing a surgery would result in budgetary impact, causing reduced funding for other pertinent health matters. I think this is a justified decision for ADHB to delay the surgery if it means the attention is better spent at matters that would benefit more people.

Cheers :)

Jen
16-05-2010, 09:59 AM
The delays have not been purely over the cost of the operation. It appears to be a multitude of problems from poor communication between specialists and treatment centres, long waiting lists for pre-surgery checks, the patient becoming unwell (several times) and it was not safe to perform surgery and a lack of resources (no bed space in intensive care and no availability of medical staff).

It sounds like a case of if one thing goes wrong, everything goes wrong. Very frustrating for this girl and her family.

Trev
16-05-2010, 11:55 AM
Yes I feel sorry for the girl and he family. The fault is not entirely the DHBs fault. I read where they say that due to the complexity of the operations they were having difficulty in getting all the people needed to perform the op. together at the same time, ie Starship Hospital.
:)

mikebartnz
16-05-2010, 10:25 PM
Quite frankly if they got their act together and got people treated sooner they would probably find that the country would save. Less time being unwell and not working, so not paying tax.

mikebartnz
16-05-2010, 10:29 PM
Just a few days ago figures from the OECD showed NZ as having the lowest tax take.
You can't have it both ways, low tax and a lst class public health service.
You are welcome to believe the OECD but I don't as I consider every payment I have to make where I have no choice in the matter as a tax eg. ACC

robsonde
16-05-2010, 11:17 PM
Yes I feel sorry for the girl and he family. The fault is not entirely the DHBs fault. I read where they say that due to the complexity of the operations they were having difficulty in getting all the people needed to perform the op. together at the same time, ie Starship Hospital.
:)

I would be more pissed off at the fact that the date keeps getting changed.
if they just came out and said , we have staff shortages, we cant get everyone lined up for another 6 months, then that would not be as bad and cancelling every 6 weeks.

it a fault of planning as much as anything else.


any which way, it's an interesting view of the health system only days out from the budget....

I don't expect the budget will help in this case at all, but the media coverage might help this one guy.
the real concern is how many other people are in the same situation and wont/cant get the same media coverage.

Twelvevolts
17-05-2010, 07:48 AM
But at least there's enough money for Treaty claims.

Phew.

Just imagine...

There's enough money for Health as well, although people will always want to find ways to spend more public money. If it is that urgent, go private.

As for Treaty claims, wouldn't have to pay anything if hadn't stolen the land in the first place. I think if someone stole something off you you'd expect compensation, funny how when it is an iwi claim out come the objections based on race.